How are bears so huge? If I ate nothing but berries and salmon I’d probably be really slender.

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    11 months ago

    You might be underestimating how nutrient-rich a steady diet of salmon can be.

    According to a ranger in Denali I spoke to: It depends on where the bears live in relation to the food. Coastal grizzlies are much larger because they have plentiful fat and protein sources like salmon. Inland grizzlies that live near glacial streams don’t have that food source and subsist on larger quantities of berries and the like and are noticeably smaller than their coastal counterparts.

    So the food sources directly impact the sizes of the animals within the same species. The grizzly I saw in Denali appeared no larger than well-fed black bears I have encountered in the Sierra Nevada range. I say appeared, because it very well may have been larger. But it certainly didn’t look like the ones near the coast.

    Kind of an answer, but I’m not a bear biologist.

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        11 months ago

        Coincidentally, grizzly bears don’t typically run year round, so it’s a perfect matchup.

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        Salmon runs are in the fall right when bears are trying to bulk up for winter hibernation.

        Spring they mostly subsist on roots, grasses, and other vegetation and insects, and summer is when the berries ripen so they take advantage of that.

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    I think comparing our diets to bears does not make sense at all … our systems are completely different.

    A bear can eat massive amounts of food in a short period of time, gain lots of weight and then fast for several months and go to sleep and do nothing.

    If we tried the same thing, we’d probably go into cardiac arrest, or some serious intestinal problems if we ate too much too fast in a short amount of time … and then we’d ruin our kidneys and liver and probably die of starvation if we went on fast after.

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      eat massive amounts of food in a short period of time, gain lots of weight and then fast for several months and go to sleep and do nothing.

      You better believe I’ve TRIED! 😆

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    Depends on how much you ate, but similar to us, bears can be omnivores (though they tend to eat more meat type stuff): They’ll eat whatever they can, which can definitely include a lot of berries and fish, but they also eat nuts, roots, insects, honey, carrion, etc.

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    If you ate berries and salmon in the quantities bears do, you would absolutely not be very slender. That’s a diet of protein, fat, and sugars.

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      11 months ago

      I mean, all diets are pretty much protein, fat, and sugar…but bears are eating nearly 20000 calories/day in the fall.

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        It astounds me how animals find all that food out in nature. When I go out in nature all I find are non-fruit-bearing trees and bushes and well manicured lawns.

        how they’re able to find 20,000 calories a day 🤯

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          That’s why they say “The early bear catches the berry.”

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        11 months ago

        That’s not how fat works at all. Adipose tissue is formed to store energy (calories) and it does not matter what the source of that energy is. It can be saturated fat, unsaturated fat, various forms of carbs… when eating more calories than used the excess is saved for later in adipose tissue.

        • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.worldOP
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          I challenge you to a fun experiment. Go eat 5 gallons of ice cream. chart the calories and chart its metabolic effect on you and how much weight it makes you gain. Take before/after body measurements. Chart how long it takes you to burn that weight & inches off to get back to your baseline.

          after you’re back to your baseline, eat the equal amount of calories in salmon. chart the same data as first experiment. come back and give us the results.

          My hypothesis (from repeated personal experience) Is that ice cream has a much worse effect on the metabolism and body measurements. Salmon is much gentler and makes you feel healthier and look and feel better.

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            I don’t know what you think science is but this is not it. Your experiment is like building a go kart and acting like you’re on par with auto-industry engineers.

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      Right?? surely they must be eating whales when we’re not watching. Because there’s no way elephants could be that huge from eating peanuts.

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    I’ve heard that bears feeding on salmon will eat only the high-value parts of the salmon and abandon the rest to scavengers, so I can believe it. More efficient when there’s a lot.

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    Bears also eat wild fruits, roots of some plants and lots of nuts (high in fats and protiens). They also are very oppourtunistic scavengers, rarely hunting outside of fishing.