The idea that the mRNA vaccine that could get translated into protein and then never degrade and keep making spike protein is (more ridiculous than believing a virus would do that) is more ridiculous than believing HIV would link up with COVID and become airborne+attack your immune cells. It’s more ridiculous than wanting to kill off all the tax cattle and be stuck with a bunch of angry anti-vaxxers with no military to insulate you. Even on their own terms all they were doing was laughing at people who died who disagreed with them (like us). It was so anti-intellectual because any conventional understanding of immunology includes an understanding of mRNA and a functional understanding of mRNA translation. To the point where if I quoted the top google result for “half life of mRNA” and said “Our estimated median mRNA half-life in human cells is 10 h, a number that scales linearly relative to division time when compared with bacteria and yeast[1]” they’d be like “oh, okay.” It’s not like there’s an alternate germ theory from the Austrian school of economics compared to Marxist immunology. If their only argument was about pharma companies being cartoon villains then we’d agree. They had no response to the first world hoarding vaccines and hiding muh copyright. I never saw anyone demand ELISAs for abundance of spike protein in vaxxed uninfected vs vaxxed infected vs unvaxxed uninfected vs unvaxxed infected because they were never going to do be convinced (especially vaxxed uninfected over time). The results wouldn’t matter. They just love to do this shit. It’s the same with the hundreds of cryptos that pass through /biz/ where you’d thank me later and I tried to warn you. It’s second only to “what’s even the point because of my wrist circumference?” in terms of popularity. There’s more to life than confidence games. Not a whole lot more, but bits and pieces you might enjoy if you gave it a try.
I agree that antivaxxers are bonkers. I’ve had over 20 vaccines in my life for flu, COVID, measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, rabies, hepatitis, meningitis, etc. and experienced no significant adverse effects besides temporary injection site soreness, temporary headache, and temporary lymph node swelling, all of which were minor and were far better than getting the diseases listed above. That said, the FDA and CDC did a shit job during COVID explaining masks and vaccines. At the start of the pandemic, Fauci went live on TV telling people NOT to wear masks because he’s a fucking idiot. Similarly, FDA told everyone the mRNA COVID vaccines were 90% effective without explaining that they were referring to efficacy against severe illness and death, NOT against transmission. So when vaccinated people starting catching COVID (albeit with less severe infection compared to non-vaccinated people), it just confused a lot of people who then concluded that the vaccine must not work for anything. FDA and CDC are useless fucks who do nothing but rubber-stamp big pharma, and I say this as an extremely pro-vaccine person. FDA also helped cause the opioid epidemic by letting Purdue say their oxycodone was not addictive (would be funny if it weren’t so sad) and they caused the baby formula crisis by not allowing plentiful and healthier European baby formula to be imported. Fuck FDA.
The idea that the mRNA vaccine that could get translated into protein and then never degrade and keep making spike protein is (more ridiculous than believing a virus would do that) is more ridiculous than believing HIV would link up with COVID and become airborne+attack your immune cells. It’s more ridiculous than wanting to kill off all the tax cattle and be stuck with a bunch of angry anti-vaxxers with no military to insulate you. Even on their own terms all they were doing was laughing at people who died who disagreed with them (like us). It was so anti-intellectual because any conventional understanding of immunology includes an understanding of mRNA and a functional understanding of mRNA translation. To the point where if I quoted the top google result for “half life of mRNA” and said “Our estimated median mRNA half-life in human cells is 10 h, a number that scales linearly relative to division time when compared with bacteria and yeast[1]” they’d be like “oh, okay.” It’s not like there’s an alternate germ theory from the Austrian school of economics compared to Marxist immunology. If their only argument was about pharma companies being cartoon villains then we’d agree. They had no response to the first world hoarding vaccines and hiding muh copyright. I never saw anyone demand ELISAs for abundance of spike protein in vaxxed uninfected vs vaxxed infected vs unvaxxed uninfected vs unvaxxed infected because they were never going to do be convinced (especially vaxxed uninfected over time). The results wouldn’t matter. They just love to do this shit. It’s the same with the hundreds of cryptos that pass through /biz/ where you’d thank me later and I tried to warn you. It’s second only to “what’s even the point because of my wrist circumference?” in terms of popularity. There’s more to life than confidence games. Not a whole lot more, but bits and pieces you might enjoy if you gave it a try.
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC403777/
Anti-vaxxers don’t understand how mRNA works, is it any suprise that this is their response?
I agree that antivaxxers are bonkers. I’ve had over 20 vaccines in my life for flu, COVID, measles, mumps, rubella, diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, rabies, hepatitis, meningitis, etc. and experienced no significant adverse effects besides temporary injection site soreness, temporary headache, and temporary lymph node swelling, all of which were minor and were far better than getting the diseases listed above. That said, the FDA and CDC did a shit job during COVID explaining masks and vaccines. At the start of the pandemic, Fauci went live on TV telling people NOT to wear masks because he’s a fucking idiot. Similarly, FDA told everyone the mRNA COVID vaccines were 90% effective without explaining that they were referring to efficacy against severe illness and death, NOT against transmission. So when vaccinated people starting catching COVID (albeit with less severe infection compared to non-vaccinated people), it just confused a lot of people who then concluded that the vaccine must not work for anything. FDA and CDC are useless fucks who do nothing but rubber-stamp big pharma, and I say this as an extremely pro-vaccine person. FDA also helped cause the opioid epidemic by letting Purdue say their oxycodone was not addictive (would be funny if it weren’t so sad) and they caused the baby formula crisis by not allowing plentiful and healthier European baby formula to be imported. Fuck FDA.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: