I know we pretty much all hated spez for all the shit he pulled, but a few weeks ago the tone towards reddit itself around here was more neutral. People liked it here on Lemmy a lot better, but people weren’t hating on the old place so much.

Recently I’m seeing this huuuuuuuge surge of just pure fucking hatred leveled at the site itself. Anyone else notice this or is it just me?

I mean, I was there because I thought it was alright. I hated spez for fucking it up and completely screwing his communities over. But I never hated reddit itself, and I still don’t. Otherwise I would’ve left a lot sooner.

Do you personally hate reddit? If so, why?

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    I suppose that would lead to a lot of associations. Personally I blame all of that on the people that actually did it though, not just reddit as a whole, which I just view as a successful website. The actual real life people who did those things and made those decisions are the ones that deserve the real condemnation.

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      And the actual real life people who run reddit encouraged them, or ousted them for actual real life people who would do it.

      The shitty people who enable shitty policy are shitty, but I try to focus on the fact that they’re just enablers.

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        But it’s those enablers fault. They have names. Blaming just “reddit” lets them off the hook too easy. We should use their names to attack them, instead of the faceless, cold business they are just milking for cash. The business is the tool. The person using it is the dirtbag.

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          I think you’re misunderstanding me.

          The mods and admins are willing stooges who enabled those I blame: Steve Huffman, and the companies that helped him neuter, remove, or paper over the parts of reddit that users built - transforming it into the shitheap they’re trying to parcel out to the market in an IPO.

          The blame lies at the top of any shitheap. Always.

          (But I have no love for stooges except for the original three.)

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          But it’s those enablers fault. They have names.

          They don’t - they’re all just anonymous admins and mods.

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      True, but the problem is that the real life people that did those things are all anonymous admins and mods that face no repercussions and give you no way to appeal or reverse anything. They’re the ones controlling the site and ruining it, much like how lots of people now think that Elon Musk is ruining twitter. Is it twitters fault or musks fault? They’re one and the same.

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        No, they’re not all anonymous. You can look them up. I mean, low-level employees are just doing what their boss tells them. But the boss–the person making the decisions–that guy’s got a name. A lot of the upper level management of the company are known publicly.

        The little guys are anonymous, the mods especially, but not the people that made the biggest decisions. If we blame Musk, we should certainly blame spez. Who you can find the real name of with a single google search.

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          Admin accounts are fully anonymous. Mod accounts are anonymous. Almost all mod messages are sent from a modmail account, so you don’t even know which anonymous mod took action.

          It’s not just spez who is the problem, it’s the admins too.

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            The misc grunts, sure. But they’re just following their instructions. You can follow it up the corporate ladder to find the guy who has the real responsibility for the whole culture and strategy that everyone is following.

            The guy in charge picks the playbook his company uses, so to speak.