• Poggervania@kbin.social
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      11 months ago

      See: Al Gore vs Bush

      Also, still miffed about Bernie not being a “good candidate” for the DNC in 2016.

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        Gore won. He just fucked up by playing by the rules back when people thought that mattered. The brooks brother rioters knew better, and the right wing court put the fix in.

        Also, not to be a pill, but nader took a small percentage of the votes in Florida in that election as a progressive. Most of those probally would have gone to Gore, making the bullshit soft coup the GOP pulled off impossible if he wasn’t in the race.

        First past the post means vote for the lesser evil and pressure the fuck out of them to get the system changed. Thats it. The system doesn’t let anything else work.

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          Nader didn’t just take a small percentage, he deliberately targeted swing states to sabotage Gore for stepping on the Green Party’s turf by running on climate issues.

          Literally the green party exists today because they refused to let the usual process 3rd parties swear is the actual reason they exist play out, and let the major party that is closest to them adopt their policies.

          And you can see that “fuck you this is my shit!” mentality to a certain degree among modern NoVote “progressives”, it isn’t enough if Biden literally delivers on everything Bernie said he would and more, because he’s “the DNC” and he’s not Bernie so it’s obviously not good enough and you should still refuse to vote for him.

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            it isn’t enough if Biden literally delivers on everything Bernie said he would and more, because he’s “the DNC” and he’s not Bernie so it’s obviously not good enough and you should still refuse to vote for him.

            i’m torn between jill stein and cornel west, but if dark brandon returns and actually accomplishes this, i will vote for him. tell your boy to get to work.

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          To add in, the court didn’t have the authority to intervene. Congress is supposed to decide elections that are tied or otherwise in doubt.

          And didn’t Gore actually win the recount after all was said and done?

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            And didn’t Gore actually win the recount after all was said and done?

            Yes but he conceded before then.

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              Concessions don’t have legal force. The legal force is the state secretary. Or SCOTUS giving itself power.

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                  Nope he conceded on December 13. They day after SCOTUS overruled the state supreme court and every federal court under them.

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          nader took a small percentage of the votes in Florida in that election as a progressive. Most of those probally would have gone to Gore

          Absolutely! Steve “three-shirts” Bannon and wealthy conservatives are trying their best to dilute the Biden vote by encouraging/financing RFK, Jill Stein, West and the No Labels party

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        Fucking Gore couldnt even win his own home state, a state that overwhelmingly vote Clinton both times. Had he been able to do that he wouldnt have needed Florida.

        And what is it with liberals always blaming the 3% that vote 3rd party, and never the 15+% of Democrats that flipped party?