• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Every President has called on Kissinger at some point. Even Obama

    You say this like people didn’t realize Obama lied about being progressive a decade ago…

    Dude was neoliberal thru and they. It’s just he was so (relatively) young no one knew his first election, and the second there wasn’t a primary so the only other option in the general was R

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      1 year ago

      Obama campaigned on single payer. That’s VERY progressive. He just copped out on it once he was seated.

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        1 year ago

        He didn’t cop out, he had to deal with Lieberman who said Single Payer was a non-starter.

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        1 year ago

        Obama’s presidency was the first presidency with a truly contrarian congress. Dems should have done more when they controlled both houses, because once they lost the senate, Republicans blocked Obama’s agenda in every conceivable way, and that has been their modus operandi ever since.

        Just for reference, Obamacare was supposed to be fairly close to single-payer insurance, with both public and private options (which would force private insurance to compete with the government). What we got in the end was a neutered, emaciated shell of what the original bill was supposed to be, but at least insurance companies couldn’t deny you based on preexisting conditions anymore. This was considered a huge win at the time. It’s laughable though, because this was when everyone was pointing at Canada and claiming they had death panels because universal healthcare couldn’t handle all the patients (complete bullshit/propaganda), as if our own insurance companies weren’t doing exactly this.

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        1 year ago

        Lol…

        Campaigning to do something and then immediately refusing to try doesn’t make anyone progressive…

        As I kid I told people I wanted to be an astronaut and they acted happy for me because I was a kid.

        I never became an astronaut, so why are we calling Obama a progressive?