Agreed, had a fellow protester try to start a chant about supporting resistance fighters and hang gliders or something at the last action I was at. I’ll be the first to say individually that I do support them, but it was obvious the chant was rubbing people the wrong way and would detract from the wider ceasefire message at the gathering.
Almost seems like leftist virtue signaling, it is only for you and not helping any other part of the movement
That’s kinda funny because all the protests I’ve attended the speakers have started intifada and revolution chants which shocked me also because of the contradiction with demands. The crowd is totally into it though which is cool
The Intifada one didn’t show up for a few weeks at mine, the only one solution made me feel a bit off at first, but overall I don’t mind it as much.
After reading the other poster’s reply here, I do see the point about contradiction with what the PFLP have asked for. Perhaps I see it as a way to tie together struggle and revolution in Palestine with how protests and organizing in your location can also be the solution.
I think it’s important to say that what matters is not what “the message” is that was intended and some sort of distractions/people disagreeing. That all must be subordinated to the actions/line of the party familiar with the conditions. It would be correct to ‘rub the wrong way’ if that were the line of PFLP. We dont subordinate to what is popular unless that is what is advantageous. Palestinians wanted a ceasefire and asked for westerners to support it, and that’s why it’s the correct line
Agreed, had a fellow protester try to start a chant about supporting resistance fighters and hang gliders or something at the last action I was at. I’ll be the first to say individually that I do support them, but it was obvious the chant was rubbing people the wrong way and would detract from the wider ceasefire message at the gathering.
Almost seems like leftist virtue signaling, it is only for you and not helping any other part of the movement
That’s kinda funny because all the protests I’ve attended the speakers have started intifada and revolution chants which shocked me also because of the contradiction with demands. The crowd is totally into it though which is cool
I’ve heard “there is only one solution / intifada revolution” but not “they have tanks we have hang gliders” (which is funny) irl.
I was amused with the tanks and hang gliders, that’s for sure
The Intifada one didn’t show up for a few weeks at mine, the only one solution made me feel a bit off at first, but overall I don’t mind it as much.
After reading the other poster’s reply here, I do see the point about contradiction with what the PFLP have asked for. Perhaps I see it as a way to tie together struggle and revolution in Palestine with how protests and organizing in your location can also be the solution.
I think it’s important to say that what matters is not what “the message” is that was intended and some sort of distractions/people disagreeing. That all must be subordinated to the actions/line of the party familiar with the conditions. It would be correct to ‘rub the wrong way’ if that were the line of PFLP. We dont subordinate to what is popular unless that is what is advantageous. Palestinians wanted a ceasefire and asked for westerners to support it, and that’s why it’s the correct line
Thanks, that is well articulated