Death to America
Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.
Yes, obviously, what Israel is now doing is in no way defensive but taking their dishonest framing and directly rejecting it is good too.
Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.
liberal discourse about “rights” always misses the point anyway. Israel has always used the idea that it guarantees more “democratic rights” than the surrounding Arab states as evidence that it has
SVPERIOR CVLTVRE 
etc. etc.Israel has the power to defend itself. Where does it get that power? From the imperial core states (especially NATO/EU members) pouring money into it. Why do they do that? Because settler colonies are forward operating bases for imperial core capitalists. You can set up a situation where people have “equal rights” on paper, but in practice, violence decides what the actual material conditions are. Segregation in the united states always claimed to be “separate but equal” even as black people were made to suffer systemic discrimination (and continue to be made to suffer obviously)
good post
Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.
Saw someone do this on Sky News of all places today lmao, interviewer didn’t know how to react.
My absolute favorite is to hit them with even more religious bullshit. “As a devout Catholic I cannot deny Jesus of Nazareth is the rightful King of Israel and his kingdom will reign through the hearts of all; it transcends borders, language and culture. To acknowledge another Israel would be against the practice of the church.”
I’d stay away from using catholic doctrine to justify opposition to Zionism.
Like, the material is absolutely there, but that’s mainly because for the last thousand years it was the primary ideological basis for European antisemitism.
We hear you, we see you, but our hands are tied.
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papistry
To me the true tragedy is if Mesopotamia and the Levant formed into one nation like the Arabs in the area wanted, we would have Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine all as one nation. Even if 7 million Jews moved there, they would not be able to dominate their partitioned region. The colonial mandates of the late 19th century and early 20th century is what caused this violence, now we’re just going to live it out until the status quo can eventually change. May the communists win this century
It always goes back to the British
Sure Britain partitioned it all, but they’ve been gone since before 1950. Surely they could have immediately unpartitioned if that’s what they wanted, at a certain point it sounds like Trudeau blaming Mulroney
Til British people just drew lines in a map right before they left and if people didn’t like it then all they had to do was print new maps.
TIL people can’t conceive of the idea all these Arabian countries have had 80 years to merge, if they desired.
It’s not as though the most powerful empire ever to exist (amerikkka) was actively destroying any movement that arose to accomplish this during the period you’ve mentioned. The CIA for instance openly admits to having coup’d Mossadegh (democratically elected by lib standards) after he dared to attempt to nationalize Iran’s oil. There are many other examples of the USA meddling in the region, for example the Iraq War which slaughtered a million people and which Biden voted for.
You’re 100% correct about what Amerikkka was doing with the CIA but Mossadegh is not the best specific example since that’s Iran, and Iran is not an Arab country. it is Muslim, but not Arab. They don’t speak Arabic, but Farsi. Iran is not considered part of the “Arab world” but it is considered part of the Middle East. These are often confused.Arab World (does not Include Iran)
Middle East (does include Iran)
Iran
Usually when people want to refer to the Arab World + Iran they say “MENA region” (Middle East North Africa)
Hearts of iron brained mf, just merge bro just click yes on the event pop up
I guess you’re right, the only possibility is that people like their post partition nation and national identities. There’s really no other explanation and no I won’t read any history to find out. Good thing the British came along and taught those foolish savages who they are.
Oh OK. So they don’t want to. So what was the point of blaming the English yet?
My reply to you was sarcastic. Of course theres much more to decolonization than redrawing lines on a map and the British are absolutely to blame for the longstanding effects of colonialism.
Why are you simping so hard for a country that fucked up half the world?
The way our ghouls are behaving about this, it’s gonna be hard to say we don’t deserve whatever 
happens nextthinking about those videos of huge crowds of settlers at Ben Gurion queueing to flee to where their other passport is from
It’s a fun thing to say, I’m sure. But it honestly upsets me to see others so willingly and happily wish death upon others. I don’t actually wish death on anyone, it’s just a sad and unfortunate necessity because oppressors like Israel and the US make it the only means of self-defence.
i agree the “1000 october 7s” aka 1.2 million dead people part is concerning me a bit, even if it’s hyperbole. like, we can recognize violence is often a necessary means to liberation without rooting for maximum violence?
Yeah, comments like that just make liberal psychos feel more justified calling the left pro-hamas instead of pro-palestine. I don’t think it’s particularly productive.
Liberal psychos will always feel justified in everything they do.
Good point.
idk why I don’t hear anybody saying this but “from the river to the sea” is compatible with a one state solution of reintegration a la South Africa. Yes there will be internal violence. Yes the settlers will run and hide in gated communities within gated communities. Yes it will take over 100 years to become something resembling a normal country.
