Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers use an iPhone, spelling disaster for Google’s mobile future

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    10 months ago

    I honestly think that is only a thing in the USA. Nowhere else in the world thinks like this. Also the type of bullying and even school shootings that we see and hear are mostly only-USA issues so I think there is something really wrong with teens over there.

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    11 months ago

    Whoever considers an iPhone as a status thing is generally broke anyway. I personally own both S23U and i14PM and I still use S23U because it helps me in my daily life much more than an iPhone. People claiming something about others based on a fucking phone preference aren’t worth my time.

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    11 months ago

    Why are iPhones so popular in the US compared to Europe? Is it a peer pressure kind of thing? Or simply status? The difference seems to be pretty substantial and I don’t think it can be explained by user experience alone.

    iPhones have a 58% (US) vs 26% (EU) market share.

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      I think it has to do with the messagin app. For some reason in the us it’s still common to use plain sms messages, which on an iPhone get translated to the blue bubble, but when sent to an android become the infamous green bubble.

      This is however not the case in the EU bc sms messages were still expensive enoughfuring that time that when whatsapp released, everyone did the switch so as to not to pay the sms fees, and now, even if sms are basically free, everyone uses whatsapp as the default messaging app.

      And as we know on whatsapp there’s no differentiation of anything regarding the device you are sending messages to, so no constant reminder of “this guy had an android”.

      Just my 2 cents on why this could be.

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        11 months ago

        The blue bubbles mean you’re using iMessage, which is encrypted. You don’t have to download a separate app owned by Facebook which makes texting iPhone to iPhone so much better.

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          11 months ago

          In the US most carriers (and certainly the big 3) support end-to-end encryption via RCS. Though of course, Apple won’t support the Diffie-Helman exchange outside of iMessage or anything RCS at all.

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            …which you need to install Google or Samsung messages to take advantage of, so it’s the same thing.

            Until all phones use the same protocols in their stock messages app, SMS will still be used to send between the different platforms.

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              11 months ago

              RCS is a standard and is application and even operating system agnostic. Anyone, including applications outside of Android can support it.

              iMessage is not a standard and certainly not agnostic.

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                11 months ago

                Ok, well I still don’t want to install another app to use it so I guess we’re stuck.

                What really needs to happen is for all the phone makers agree to use the same protocols (and I really don’t care which) so we can all have end-to-end encryption by default.

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                  11 months ago

                  That’s the thing. Essentially everyone has agreed, except for Apple. This includes 12 phone manufacturers and at least 55 operators world-wide.

                  Even Microsoft since Windows 10 supports RCS in the Your Phone app, so if you’re using a Windows desktop or laptop, even it supports RCS.

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          11 months ago

          Stupid question, but does imessage allow you to record messages, post videos, pictures, gifs, attach files, hold polls, start groups, etc?

          Or is it still mainly an sms based thing?

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        11 months ago

        which on an iPhone get translated to the blue bubble but when sent to an android become the infamous green bubble.

        The interesting thing is that the green/blue bubble thing is only infamous in the US.

        As you say, outside the US, people use messaging apps like whatsapp or wechat.

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    11 months ago

    A lot of it is due to peer pressure, marketing, and such.

    I’m not from the US, but I knew people, who berated Android for having lower-end models (which meant even their flagship models are lower-end), some models still having headphone jacks (one of them screamed at me for buying a wired mouse, thus not insentivizing manufacturers to develop even better wireless technologies, thus enabling him to have a wireless audio interface and a portless Macbook (would be super elegant)), etc.

    There’s also Apple’s massive foothold in the education market. I guess kids using iPads are more likely to stay with other Apple devices in the future.

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    11 months ago

    If the US had a functioning FCC that wasn’t toothless aka their own Margrethe Vestager, European Commissioner for Competition, and Digital Markets Act, iMessage wouldn’t even be a special.

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    11 months ago

    Iphone is the superior phone for people that really dont want to know how a operating system works and dont want to learn either. Always when i talk about something i do on my phone that Apple has locked its users out of doing my iPhone-friends go “That sounds complicated” when its mostly basic af. I would not even dare call myself a power-user, because i am not. Its just that iphone is perfect for the tech illiterate.

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      Apple’s whole shtick for a long time now is ease of use. In that way, one could argue that they played a part in the current level of tech illiteracy (though if people wanted to learn tech in the first place, they wouldn’t have succeeded, but I disgress). So, they’re just harvesting the fruits of their labor. Pun absolutely intended.

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    11 months ago

    It’s all Samsung and Huawei in my country. I’ve heard the popularity of Apple in the US is partially due to the use of imessage by people and the strong dislike for “green text” because of how Android messenger doesn’t work well with imessage or something.

    People here mostly use Whatsapp for communication so the whole green-text thing is never talked about.

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      There’s no “Android messenger”. iMessage just degrades to SMS when the receiving device isn’t an iPhone. So it’s really that those people choose to use the only messenger app that is only available on one brand of phones.

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    11 months ago

    Guys, should an essential device be “cool”? It doesn’t hurt, don’t get me wrong… But is it a good reason to buy a device you need?

    Buy this shit because it works, not because it’s cool. Android lets you do more, so I own one. That’s it. Fuck Google, I just want to install third party apps.

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      11 months ago

      These are teenagers. Buying anything is done under the consideration of how cool it is. Literally everything else is not important during consideration, what matters is having the thing that makes you socially accepted.

      If old school cell phones with monochrome pixel displays and zero functionalities beyond telephone and sms were trending, instead of just being a niche for people fed up with social media, kids would buy that in a heartbeat.

      You probably forgot how overwhelmingly important social status and belonging to a group is at that age.