Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers use an iPhone, spelling disaster for Google’s mobile future

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    1 year ago

    The blue bubbles mean you’re using iMessage, which is encrypted. You don’t have to download a separate app owned by Facebook which makes texting iPhone to iPhone so much better.

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      1 year ago

      In the US most carriers (and certainly the big 3) support end-to-end encryption via RCS. Though of course, Apple won’t support the Diffie-Helman exchange outside of iMessage or anything RCS at all.

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        1 year ago

        …which you need to install Google or Samsung messages to take advantage of, so it’s the same thing.

        Until all phones use the same protocols in their stock messages app, SMS will still be used to send between the different platforms.

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          RCS is a standard and is application and even operating system agnostic. Anyone, including applications outside of Android can support it.

          iMessage is not a standard and certainly not agnostic.

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            Ok, well I still don’t want to install another app to use it so I guess we’re stuck.

            What really needs to happen is for all the phone makers agree to use the same protocols (and I really don’t care which) so we can all have end-to-end encryption by default.

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              That’s the thing. Essentially everyone has agreed, except for Apple. This includes 12 phone manufacturers and at least 55 operators world-wide.

              Even Microsoft since Windows 10 supports RCS in the Your Phone app, so if you’re using a Windows desktop or laptop, even it supports RCS.

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                Everybody has agreed that the default messaging app is Whatsapp over here. I haven’t seen anybody use anything else for texting in ages, on either platform.

                I don’t think you guys realize how bizarre this conversation sounds to me.

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                  Everyone knows, because anytime anyone talks about SMS/MMS/RCS somebody comes in to remind people that it’s mostly a US thing. SMS/MMS started to become cheap in the early 00s in most of the US (and unlimited free for users of the same carrier was common) and as carriers raced to compete by the late 00s, unlimited SMS/MMS was commonly free in the US, even to users outside their own carrier. All carriers had interoperability with SMS/MMS already. Even iMessage falls back to SMS/MMS outside of iMessage. It is pretty logical that SMS/MMS became what most people used in the US.

                  Elsewhere, Whatsapp came out when much of the rest of the world was still paying for the number of text messages sent or they could use a miniscule amount of their data and use something else.

                  We know. It always comes up.

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      1 year ago

      Stupid question, but does imessage allow you to record messages, post videos, pictures, gifs, attach files, hold polls, start groups, etc?

      Or is it still mainly an sms based thing?