• FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    The massacre of October 7 was more like a Comanche raid than like the Holocaust or a pogrom, despite the relevance of the latter comparison to the Jewish people.

    The Comanches, like the Gazans, were more savage and sadistic than the Nazis and Europeans.

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      My thoughts exactly.

      The Comanche raids on Mexico started after some Mexican territorial officials put out bounties on the ears of Native Americans that they didn’t like. In response, the Comanche ravaged Mexico as far south as Mexico City (as they should have). Not to say the Comanche were nice - there were plenty of other tribes they ruthlessly dominated.

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    despite the relevance of the latter comparison to the Jewish people

    I’d argue comparing Israelis to European settlers and Palestinians to indigenous Americans is a pretty apt comparison, my guy.

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    I did not expect to see the savage and bloodthirsty native Americans trope in the wild in the year of our lord 2023. What’s next, “Palestinians are like the Finnish, aggressive and carrying knives”?

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    lmfao it’s always the Comanche, Apache, Sioux, and Aztecs with these people. Maybe the Caribs for the somewhat educated ones. They ignore the many hundreds of tribes that were nowhere near as brutal as the ones they hyperfocus on. The disgusting part is that the more peaceful ones are mocked for being too weak to defend themselves and the whites were merely “conquerers”, but the ones that fought back are all brutal savages who deserved it anyway because they were already warmongering.

    This is exactly how it is with Palestine. They like Palestine enough to feel sorry for them when they get brutalized but call for their heads the moment they fight back and casualties happen. It’s all “this is war” when the Israelis kill someone and “nuke the savages” when Palestine kills civilians.

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      Said treats being revisionist westerns which were meant to deconstruct the genre and shed light on the racism inherent in it but were constrained by being chiefly from the white settlers’ perspectives as well as marketed to a white audience.

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    If you ever claim your opponents are “more sadistic than the nazis” I’m gonna have to call you on your bullshit and assume you’re the bad guy lmao

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    I’m a white American and this makes me fucking cringe hard. I’ve even been considering the historical parallels between the Navajo and Gaza, and this sent it

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    …what is the relevance of that picture? It doesn’t appear to be the person who made the post, is it someone I should recognize from, uh, fandango dot com?

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        I think the searchers is actually meant to be a criticism of both westerns and manifest destiny, but the criticism gets lost because you can’t make a movie portraying a racist spciety to a racist society without everyone just nodding along. Kind of perfect reference for that guy to make, because he constructs a criticism of a settler colonial state and goes “and anyone who opposes it is an evil savage”. There’s something poetic in being so bought into your racist worldview that your brain can’t process critiques of it in either art or formal argument.

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          it is kind of difficult to parse today, i’m still not sure to what extent it was actually subversive in it’s context, but it wasn’t that much, or presented in the overt way (hammer over the noggin’) a yankee audience requires. a lynchpin of the narrative, the awaited and expected execution of natalie wood for being ‘defiled’—i don’t think it occurs to a modern audience that the price for being SA’d was supposed to be death, and it was somewhat dated in the 50’s when the movie came out. so that commentary and criticism will well fly over people’s heads

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      Must absolutely suck to the few Baltic Jewish partisans still alive. Both the Baltic countries you fought tooth and nail to survive in and the “Jewish State” claiming to represent you whitewash the monsters who murdered your friends and family and forced you to be a “terrorist” just barely eking out an existence in the woods.

      IIRC, Abba Kovner initially embraced Zionism post-war only to come to regret it later in life when he started linking the Holocaust to the Nakba in his writings. Something like this is just so on the nose in light of the fact.