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    I will not vote for the party of genocide supply. Aka the dems.

    They’re both supporting the ongoing genocide. This isn’t helpful for deciding who to vote for.

    Local candidates are not going fix the two party system. That’s a national issue.

    Which is why I specified local/congressional. It’s going to take all levels of government to unfuck us from a two party system.

    I don’t know the solution, but buying into the Dems bullshit “lesser of Two evils” AGAIN is not it.

    Only one of these choices is actively trying to turn our country into a theocratic hell hole.

    The “lesser of two evils” is fucking awful, but it’s true.

    Have fun being the same chump you were 8 years ago.

    If you can’t talk about politics without resorting to personal insults then you must know how weak your argument is.

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      They’re both supporting the ongoing genocide. This isn’t helpful for deciding who to vote for.

      You are the one deciding between the two only, not me. I will vote for a candidate that has a platform I can support and nothing else.

      It’s going to take all levels of government to unfuck us from a two party system.

      The dems continue to get elected because of the Two party system. They aren’t going to change it.

      Let me know when it does tho…

      Only one of these choices is actively trying to turn our country into a theocratic hell hole.

      Yes, and the other will happily participate in genocide, be unable to create real change in Any area I care about and then pretend they are the party of moral superiority.

      You vote blue you will still have red on your hands.

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        I will vote for a candidate that has a platform I can support and nothing else.

        And in doing so you’ll waste your vote, allowing the worst possible option (Trump) to get voted in.

        The dems continue to get elected because of the Two party system. They aren’t going to change it.

        Establishment democrats won’t let it happen, but they can’t do shit if they don’t get elected, and actually good candidates get elected instead.

        Which means all levels of government are involved. And this issue needs to be fought in the primaries as well.

        You vote blue you will still have red on your hands.

        There will be red on everyone’s hands no matter what. No matter who we choose, our tax dollars are going to genocide.

        The least we can do, the bare fucking minimum is to reduce the amount of red.

        You’ll have just as much red on your hands as I do. But the difference is that you’re willing to let it be more red.

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          Establishment democrats won’t let it happen, but they can’t do shit if they don’t get elected

          So we should vote democrat? Lmao Are you hearing yourself?

          There will be red on everyone’s hands no matter what. No matter who we choose, our tax dollars are going to genocide.

          And people tell me I’m pessimistic.

          Our tax dollars are going to genocide because of the tacid support our politicians get from people like you.

          You are the problem, you are the person who refuses to do anything different.

          This situation didn’t start in 2016, it has been made by decades of people making the same choice you insist everyone make.

          Vote blue or else!

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            So we should vote democrat? Lmao Are you hearing yourself?

            So we should vote for the democrats that aren’t establishment democrats, the ones that will actually fix the situation.

            Our tax dollars are going to genocide because of the tacid support our politicians get from people like you.

            No, it’s because of the two party system.

            You are the problem, you are the person who refuses to do anything different.

            I am saying we need to do something different. Have you not been paying attention?

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              No, it’s because of the two party system.

              And thats why i should vote for one of the two parties?

              I am saying we need to do something different. Have you not been paying attention?

              I guess im confused. Here i thought you were telling me to vote for the democrats.

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                And thats why i should vote for one of the two parties?

                That’s why we’re stuck with 3 options, with only one of them making sense.

                Here i thought you were telling me to vote for the democrats.

                I am.

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        The GOP also continues to get elected because of the two party system. There’s a much better shot at taking over the Democratic party to force reform through than will ever happen with the GOP. I want to vote third party, but I’m not going to pretend that it’s safe to do so yet at the level of president.

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          I want to vote third party, but I’m not going to pretend that it’s safe to do so yet at the level of president.

          You are the problem.

          There’s a much better shot at taking over the Democratic party to force reform through than will ever happen with the GOP.

          It is much more likely that a 3rd party will win, than the democratic party being reformed. Change my mind.

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            And you think 3rd parties solve all of our problems? It’d be even worse. They don’t have any serious political plan, if they did you’d see them investing heavily in local races and trying to get control of Congress before the presidency.

            It’s just a grift to get your money and support. Oh they’ll criticize Democrats plenty for not being harsh on the rich or Republicans, and then they’ll go dine with right wing authoritarians and rich oligarchs who make our CEOs look like socialists.

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              It’s just a grift to get your money and support.

              And the dems and repubs are doing what with our money and support?

              Oh that’s right genocide.

              Hmmmmmmmm

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        The presidential race is the LAST place you should be making your stand. It’s like you want to skip all the early levels of the game (local and state elections) and jump straight to the final boss without realising you won’t win this game by doing that.

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            So I was right. You don’t actually want to win the game, you just want to take your ball and go home because your fee fees are hurt.

            Way to be a loser.

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              Oh yeah my fee fees are hurting alright. Especially after watching all those tiny little bodies get pulled from the rubble in gaza.

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                If Trump wins, there’s going to be a lot more of that than there already is. Are you wearing their blood for show, or do you actually care about this infants? If you do care, there’s a very easy way to make sure as few of them die as possible.

                Vote Biden. If you don’t, you’re quite literally fine with even more infants dying because your idealism is apparently more important than them.