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Baker’s testimony shows that Mozilla depends so much on its deal with Google for revenue that “the biggest loser of a DOJ win in the Google case would be Mozilla.”
Baker’s testimony shows that Mozilla depends so much on its deal with Google for revenue that “the biggest loser of a DOJ win in the Google case would be Mozilla.”
Another interesting comment Mozilla’s takeaway from the experiment was that Firefox "users made it clear that they look for and want and expect Google.”
that’s not really Mozilla’s fault, users are too locked into Google and that’s ultimately Google’s fault.
Although I don’t like at all that Mozilla is funded by Google and testified in their favor.
I saw it more as testifying about why they did what they did
Ultimately the message is still ‘we had to use Google to survive, they have that much control over the space’
I’m of two minds. I use Firefox for privacy reasons and don’t use Google if I can avoid it, but I have to admit that chrome was leagues better than other popular browsers at the time. It’s no accident that they ran away with the market share even when IE was on everyone’s computer by default.
Now they’ve gotten huge and their search engine has gone to shit. So it goes with infinite growth. I’m with Firefox for now, but I’ve learned the hard way not to totally trust any piece of software.
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oh definitely. I haven’t used a Google service in 5 years. But Google’s lock in is not forced, it’s one that relies on people tech illiteracy, comfort and not knowing better.
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Not gonna lie. This is the kind of tech illiteracy people are talking about.
In the specific case of setting up Jellyfin, it takes about 10 minutes, you do it once, never have to do it again, and it has no programming skill requirement to it.
These services google offer thrive on ignorance of alternatives, they’re not any easier to use than the alternatives.
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I’m surpsied (but obviously shouldn’t be) that that many potential users would instantly bounce off Firefox instead of changing the default search engine.
Honestly, the association with Yahoo just makes the platform look like a joke. Like, the first time you do a search and it pops up as Yahoo your first instinct is thinking you’re using the wrong thing.
Yup it could be literally anything else but yahoo
Nothing binds me to my browser besides my bookmarks which can be exported, my addons which are usually on both platforms and my history.
At home and on my phone I use FF and am mostly happy.
At work I choose Chrome because most websites work best in it.
It’s not really that surprising that the average user wants the most popular search engine instead of yahoo (of all things) baked in, whatever your views on Google.
To be honest I find that hard to believe, but who knows? It’s a crazy world after all.
Im also not convinced. If it were a DDG default it would just make the browser better.
To be clear, I’m not even using DDG as my main search.
DDG is just Bing on the backend. Why is the megacorp Microsoft preferable to the megacorp Google?
I was under the impression that DDG is pretty private and while underlying search is Bing, bing can’t track the searches to individuals
Maybe not the individual, but you’re still training an internet giant, just a different one.
I’d also be fine with Startpage, want, whatever. They have to use something and they can’t exactly make some poor selfhosters searing instance the Firefox default
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Bing as a brand, sure. But Bing was just a rebranded Windows Live Search, which was a rebranded MSN Search
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So what if it didn’t use Bing at launch? It wasn’t privacy-focused then, either. I’m talking about the present, not the past. Even in their own FAQ they acknowledge that results are mostly Bing.
Do you have a response to my point that the data is just going to different megacorp?
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