• schmorp@slrpnk.net
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        Just don’t grow things on an industrial scale, because that is very destructive. Small and local. How was it grown traditionally, before fossil fuels flattened the land? On smaller patches. I’d probably compare it to how corn is grown here in the mountains in Southern Europe: small fields, 50x50m max. That lends itself to these fields being separated by hedges where important partner plants and medicinal plants for your fields and meadows grow, and where wildlife finds a spot to hide. This kind of small scale gardening and agriculture still works in many parts of the world and still produces more than 50% of the food (I might be wrong on that but I remember reading it somewhere).

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          I suppose doing that could be an important part in a collapse of the capitalist system. If a community decided to stop farmers from selling massive harvests of one crop to corporations and supermarkets, often in other countries, and instead went back to eating locally grown seasonal food.

          I mean, hemp grows pretty much anywhere

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        Monoculture farming propagates plant diseases and results in a more fragile crop harvest. For example, if a region like the Midwest has a major explosion in corn borer populations, corn yields will be devastated. Monocultures are far less resilient during drought and other climate change caused problems. It also results in massive amounts of overproduction, especially when combined with industrial farming. The lack of biodiversity also hurts surrounding land and animals. I think it’s enough of a reason to simply not create boring landscapes full of a single crop. In all, a solarpunk community in an anarchist society should be able to grow enough food to meet their needs through community and individual gardens, with enough to make it throughout the year and help other communities nearby.

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          Arguably a massive amount of overproduction is somewhat needed though, not only to prevent starvation but at an economic level to keep prices to a standard CPI range so to speak

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            Overproduction means exactly what it sounds like, so no, it isn’t necessary. Sure, some overproduction might happen, and that’s not always bad. Technically a larger than expected harvest is overproduction, and that’s not a bad thing. But massive amounts of overproduction is destroying the environment and creating several tons of food waste every day. That’s a practice that we need to stop.

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              Then we somewhat agree, overproduction can sometimes be a good thing in certain circumstances. But then let me ask you this, how much money is that food waste worth at a rate of say one us dollar per kg, because it’s going to be different across different countries, and we also need to consider that recycling food waste into something besides natural fuel production isn’t exactly a great source of research funding so far.

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                I’m a type of anarchist, I don’t believe a solarpunk future should have money. I think communities should primarily grow native crops in community and individual gardens, and trade internationally between foodbanks for the small amounts of overproduction each community might create. Honestly, the only reason we have plant fuels like corn ethanol is specifically because of overproduction. Any food waste produced in a solarpunk society should go to compost for the gardens.

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      How far towards multi culture farming would you think to be reasonable or good practice?

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        I’m not sure I understand your question. I think the rule of thumb would be about 6-7 different plants in each garden.