• unfreeradical@lemmy.world
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      If he owns vehicles, then he is entitled to exploit people to drive them.

      The system has conditioned him to find a way to rationalize that he is victim.

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      He probably started his business when there was cheap labour thanks to the recession, inability to change is the defining trait of these morons.

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      They are the exact ones sucking musk dick and think he’s the god of capitalism crying that “no one understands the owner of a company is supposed to be rich and everyone is supposed to be homeless but grateful to work for them bloblooobloo .”. Wondering why no one has any empathy for them.

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      “What’s the pay? Do you do drug tests?”

      MINIMUM FUCKING WAGE. DRUG TESTS.

      In a lot of cases if you’re driving a vehicle for commercial purposes, DOT requires a pre-employment drug test. Taxi drivers are one of those, and I imagine that’s the regulation he’s under.

      I mean, yeah he’s not paying nearly enough to attract people, but the drug tests aren’t entirely up to him.

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        Yeah, it’s the combination that OP was taking issue with. You can’t pay like shit for jobs that require drug testing.

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        I am a driver in a large metropolis for a medical diagnostics unit. I do not get drug tested, nor have I ever been in finding this employment. That “DOT requirement” is false.

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          I don’t know about the class of driver you fall under, but bus drivers, taxi drivers, truck drivers, airline pilots and railroad employees are all required by DOT to take a drug test before employment. There are a few other cases where they are also required to have a drug test, such as after an accident.

          This case sounds like a taxi, so I’d guess it falls under the rules for taxi drivers.

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            You’re referring to c class drivers.

            I am a class d driver and had no such tests. Ever.

            You can look this stuff up before you comment if you’d like.

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              There’s a reason I said “in a lot of cases”. I never said “in all cases” or similar.

              Taxi drivers (and this case is a medical taxi) are one of the cases where it is required. Hence why I brought it up, and then you argued I was wrong because as a driver for a different sort of service it wasn’t required of you. And then I named several examples where it was, including one directly relevant to this discussion, and now you’re doubling down despite what kind of thing you drove having nothing to do with the point at any point.

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      I can understand the pay point, but not the drug one. Why would anyone hire a testable drugs user to drive? Which employers are fine with hiring drug users in general?

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        Ironically meth heads can pass drug tests if they haven’t partaken recently but marijuana lingers in your fat cells for a month or more. Don’t you wish you could weed (pun intended) out people who smoked a joint last weekend while hiring more drunks and crack monkeys?

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        Drug users are everyone, alcohol, tobacco, coffee, some are legal, some are still detectable months after use, would you care that your cab driver got drunk last months ? I wouldn’t care.

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        Depends on the drug tests but a lot of them are very bad at catching actual drug users or popping false positives, to being so lax on the actual sample collection that people are smuggling in clean samples rather than providing their own.

        So the people following the rules are being penalized and often put under scrutiny they didn’t deserve, and those that are breaking the rules in an obvious way aren’t being penalized for it.

        And there are some scheduled drugs that in no way inhibit your ability to drive or work, especially when they aren’t being abused and taken infrequently. And those are the ones most likely to get you caught despite being the least likely to cause an actual problem.

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        Drug tests don’t work like you think. They don’t test for the drug itself, they test for the metabolites.

        A lot of the big scary drugs your D.A.R.E. officer told you about like cocaine or LSD or meth won’t even show up on a drug test a day or two later. So I can dive into the Bolivian Marching Powder on friday after work, and pass a drug test monday.

        This falls apart when you get to marijuana, and marijuana causes a lot of issues because it will show up on a drug test weeks later, and these tests cannot determine if a person is high right then, they can only test if a person has used marijuana in the last month or so. This means if I get stoned with my wife on friday I could lose my job monday.

        Marijuana is popular in the US. If someone can get a job working for conpany Y for $8 per hour, or a job working for company Z for $8 per hour, but company Y does drug tests, guess who isn’t going to get employees? If you want to drug test, you have to pay for workers who will pass it.