• fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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      8 months ago

      LGBTQ people being pro-palestine might be the weirdest thing I’ve seen in a public demonstration.

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        Does pro-“the defense of the innocent” and pro-human rights make more sense to you.

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          Lesbians and Gays Support the Miners also received a lot of backlash from the British LGBT community for supporting a group that was stereotyped as homophobic and intolerant. And yet:

          The alliances which the campaign forged between the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community and British labour groups proved to be an important turning point in the progression of LGBT matters in the United Kingdom. Miners’ labour groups began to support, endorse and participate in various gay pride events throughout the UK, including leading London’s Lesbian and Gay Pride parade in 1985. At the 1985 Labour Party conference in Bournemouth, a resolution committing the party to the support of LGBT rights passed, due to block voting support from the National Union of Mineworkers. The miners’ groups were also among the most outspoken allies of the LGBT community in the 1988 campaign against Section 28.

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          Yes, that does. I think they should read their Popper more carefully, though. I guess it feels to me a bit like what it feels to a leftist person when a poor person votes for neoliberal policies.

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          Didn’t know all those queers were moving to Palestine

          And since it is illegal to be queer in Judaism as well, are they not allowed to take a side or voice their opinion?

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            It’s not illegal to be queer in Israel. Israel is not theocratic. Judaism, although differs to some degree, is on the more accepting part of the spectrum. It is also not illegal per se in Palestine as well but they often go to Israel to escape from very real threats from their family or the police. Israel is the only country where pride parade is held in the Middle East. Hamas, on the other hand, executes queer people very openly.

            It’s difficult to separate information about Palestinian gays from the Israeli gay scene. Since Palestine is a very homophobic culture many Palestinian gays and lesbians are forced against their cultural and religious will to hide in Israel where homosexuality is much more acceptable and, indeed, protected. Three stories are presented here about gay living and loving in these two lands torn by tribal warfare.

            From GlobalGayz.com

            By many metrics, Israel is considered a trailblazer on LGBTQ issues. Openly gay Israelis have been permitted to serve in the military since the early 1990s, nearly two decades before the U.S. military formally permitted gays to serve openly.

            From myjewishlearning.com

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        They live in a country where they are abble to live a life in a more open and accepted way and can’t understand that the people they are standing up would beat them, stone them or kill them without hesitation.

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          So your solution is to kill all Muslims? If Nazi’s said something similar, would you agree with them?

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        Yeah I don’t even know but hey I guess it looks like a lot of people don’t like Benji much any more

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        A lot of people hate that the Hamas atrocities have been weaponized by Netanyahu and he is basically doing this war to escape scrutiny in Israel.

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        Why?

        Do you also think the same about Ukraine, which is a pretty himophobic place?

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          I haven’t heard of LGBTQ people marching for Ukraine. But it seems to be at least officially bit different, since the official statements from Ukraine have been pro-LGBTQ rights since Zelenskyi became president. The people haven’t caught up yet, though, but they will if it goes like it went in Europe in the 90s. And it helps that they’re fighting Russia, who are anti-LGBTQ from the people to the government.

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          Can you provide any sources of members of the LGBTQ community being stoned to death in Ukraine?

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            Sure, the moment you can provide a source for me claiming that happens.

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      to be fair, if you wave an LGBTQ flag at any protest on TERF island and you’ll probably get harrassed

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      Seems like they’re trying to shoehorn their cause into another.

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      Since many of us left Reddit without any desire to give them traffic, could you please put a warning with your link?