President Joe Biden was asked by a reporter in Israel on Wednesday what made him confident that the Israelis weren’t behind the explosion that killed hundreds at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday.

Biden responded that it was “the data I was shown by my Defense Department.”

Two U.S. officials told ABC News the Pentagon independently concluded the Gaza hospital blast was likely caused by an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that fell short of its target.

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    Israel has killed thousands and displaced millions…because they think it’s their god given right to conquer the land. most of the country agrees that arabic people should not have the right to live in land that was palestine a few years back.

    The goal of palestinian nationalists is literally the same thing with the roles reversed. I fail to see a difference apart from the fact that Israel is stronger and we’re more critical towards it since it’s a democracy and should know better.

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      Palestinians are brutalized on a daily basis. Their land was stolen after WW2 then slowly usurped and terrorized while the world kept funding Israel. That was originally palestinian land, and there were even jewish communities in that palestinian land. Now it is an ethnostate that lets new yorkers take some guy’s ancestral home because he’s of the correct ethnic category.

      e: it’s quite strange to have to explain to people why a genocide, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid is bad.

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        Palestine as a country has never existed and Jews have as much of a historical claim to the regions as Palestinians do.

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          So for you, a millennia of history, distinct cultures, and dialect are meaningless. People who migrated and forcibly colonized in 1948, with no connection to the region or land have as much of a claim to it as an ethnicity who has lived there for centuries.

          So if that’s your argument do you just believe that israel has the right to go on a conquest and slaughter palestine? Genuine question.

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              of course, I even said there were Jews that lived in palestine before annexation. one is a ethnicity and the other is a religion, so I’m not sure how that’s relevant.

              even if i follow your train of thought, jewish palestinians existed so they have the right to create an ethnostate?

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                Because both Palestinians and Jews existed in Canaan. Both have equal claim to territory, which is why a two state solution is the only solution.

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            So if that’s your argument do you just believe that israel has the right to go on a conquest and slaughter palestine? Genuine question.

            I don’t believe my comment indicated that. I simply don’t believe that Palestine has the right to go on a conquest and slaughter Israel either.

            There are things that Israel did that I strongly disagree with, in recent history most of them are connected to West bank settlements. There are more things that I disagree with that Palestine did. I think that the 1948 UN proposed 2-state solution would have been more than reasonable, and it would have likely put Palestine into a much better position than it’s in now, but one can’t change the past. We’ll see if Israel government becomes more reasonable and thinks of a more current lasting solution, but I’m not holding my breath.

            So for you, a millennia of history, distinct cultures, and dialect are meaningless.

            Why do you think so? Jews also lived in the area, and the ones who came later afaik generally migrated and purchased their land legally, with the exception of migration during WW2, which was not legal, but imo pretty understandable since it was literally done by refugees running from the holocaust. People argue that it wasn’t kosher since the region was under British control, but before that it was under the control of Osmans and before that the region was afaik under control of someone who conquered it for most of its history. It has never been a country.

            Obviously this doesn’t give Israel a claim over the whole region, but I don’t think they have any less of a right for existence than Palestine.