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    Fucking hilarious that the Republicans brought up the downgraded credit rating that they caused and pin it on Diamond Joe lmao.

    Fucking scum bags.

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        I bet the same people that have been buying this bullshit for the last 50 years are buying it now.

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              You’re right, it’s not true. People need to get out of their bubble and listen to public radio in the states. Even the supposed non-biased ones love peddling the BOTH SIDES narrative bs. This is why races are almost always 50/50

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        Well, they’re supposed to just roll over and let them do what they want! How dare they ask for facts, reason, and properly ran debates! The temerity of it all!

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          It’s more than that. Gallup just released pool results that make it look like Republicans could win big the next election.

          The USA as a group is astoundingly stupid.

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            Polls also said the 2022 election was supposed to be a huge red wave, and instead dems kept the senate, and republicans only got a tiny majority in the house, one so small that they just had the first speaker ever voted out of the position

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      The one thing Republican Kevin McCarthy dared to do that was over-the-line was to work with Democrats to avert shutdown for the sake of the country. But that was too much for the right-wing extremists, who caused this in the first place…

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          I don’t understand what you’re saying. Yes, they voted with Democrats to remove him. That’s the entire context for my comment: they didn’t like that he dared to work with Democrats (for one moment) to avert a government shutdown.

          As for Democrats, they have learned that they can’t trust him as he’s gone back on his word and agreements multiple times, as Pramila Jayapal said in her statement.

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    Theodore Medad Pomeroy was elected as speaker on the last day of the 40th Congress on March 3, 1869. It was a gesture of respect and honor ahead of his retirement. He served one day as speaker, basically an honorary role, speaker for the day and then congres adjourned for the year. He was the shortest serving house speaker in US history. The second shortest serving house speaker is Kevin McCarthy.

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    On this day, McCarthy remembered – this is exactly what everyone said was going to happen and why no one understood why he wanted the position so badly.

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        The only thing I find baffling is that he didn’t negotiate with the democrats over the funding bill sooner. He knew he wouldn’t last regardless and yet he still put party above principle. I don’t understand someone getting stabbed in the back and then working with the stabber to stab others.

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          He could have just stuck to the deal he already agreed to in May. The extreme right would still hate him but Democrats would have at least one reason to help him out. Now the crazy pants caucus hates him for caving and the Democrats know he cannot be trusted. He did this to himself.

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          He’s a power grabber. He was convinced that he’d find SOME way of staying in power. It was only at the very edge of the precipice that he made a deal with the Democrats. At that point, the government certainly shutting down would have hurt his power more than the possibility that Gaetz would vacate the chair.

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          The 11th commandment is falling apart and it is glorious watching the GOP eat their own.

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          Republican voters. The Republican party has degraded to a point where their biggest selling point is “pwning the libz”.

          If McCarthy survived this with Democratic help, he’d be labeled a Democrat stooge (i.e. someone who believes in cooperating with the libz, instead of pwning them).

          Every comprise position he proposes after that would face internal Republican voter critique along the lines of: “is this the best deal he could get, or is he doing this to help the democrats?”

          For years now, republicans have been selling the idea that working with democrats is bad or at best a necessary evil. Publicly asking for democratic cooperation goes against years of propoganda.

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      That’s the funny part they wouldn’t give it to the Dems out of spite but they can’t lead or build a caucus of a majority.

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    In a nutshell, here’s what happened. In January, McCarthy made an agreement with hardline conservatives, some of whose terms have never been made public, to ultimately secure their support as Speaker. In May, McCarthy made a (public) agreement with Democrats to set the federal budget at a certain level in order to avert a default on the national debt. In September, though, McCarthy (under pressure from hardliners) attempted to secure further funding cuts during negotiations over a potential government shutdown—then ultimately conceded to Democrats and helped pass a funding bill that largely did not include any of the cuts that the hardliners sought (which were cuts that McCarthy had originally, in May, told Democrats he wouldn’t seek).

    McCarthy has left both his party’s furthest-right members and the entire Democratic caucus with the belief that he cannot be trusted, which is why Democrats are expected to join Monday afternoon with hyper-aggressive Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz and at least five other conservatives in supporting a “motion to vacate the chair” in the House, i.e end McCarthy’s speakership. (Republicans currently hold 221 House seats to Democrats’ 212.)

    If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next. No other Republicans have actually said they want to be Speaker, which would put us roughly back where we were in January: With McCarthy holding enough support among Republicans that no one else is a plausible candidate to become Speaker, but not enough support to win a majority of the entire House, which is what’s required, and actually assume the position. (And yes, the House needs a Speaker.)

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      If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next.

      That’s not strictly true. If there is no Speaker, then all the House can do is vote for one. So we know exactly what happens next. What we don’t know is who will end up with the job, or how long it will take to pick that person. It could be over on the first vote, or it could take days (even weeks).

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      If that happens—and it’s a fluid situation—there’s no telling what will happen next. No other Republicans have actually said they want to be Speaker, which would put us roughly back where we were in January

      Let’s hope it’s not Marjorie Taylor Greene…

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    Update: House Democratic leadership will vote yes on the pending Republican Motion to Vacate the Chair

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    We have like 40 days to figure out a new speaker and then find the govt. it was hard enough to pick one the first time. This isn’t going to end well

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      It’s not that hard. Dems just need to pick a republican who isn’t a complete piece of shit…oh wait. It is going to be hard.

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        Maybe the progressive bloc of the Dems should pull a freedom caucus and hold the party hostage until we get someone decent as speaker. I know that won’t work for a million and one reasons but a man can dream

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      I don’t have time to go looking and I don’t really know anyone else who does.

      … So who the hell is going to find it? Hell, who lost it in the first place? Make them find it, I’m busy over here.

      … ; )

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    so basically they now have 45 days to pass a CR or the Republicans will shut down the government again and 20 of those days will be spent picking a new speaker…

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      20 days to pick a new speaker

      24 days to argue about the bill within their own party

      1 day for the speaker to hastily save the party from owning another shutdown

      7 days for that speaker to be kicked out

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        You forgot the next step: Repeat endlessly while claiming that Republicans govern better than Democrats.

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        I feel like there’s a “On the first day of Christmas legislation, the GOP gave to me…” carol, ripe for the singing, here!

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    McCarthy gets ousted by his own party, somehow manages to blame Democrats. Speaking to the press just now:

    “I think today was a political decision by the Democrats. And I think I think the things they have done in the past hurt the institution,” he said.

    What a piece of shit, good riddance. The 45 daystop gap funding bill he put on the floor for a vote an hour after it was introduced, leaving Dems no time to read 77 page bill to see if it had poison pills they couldn’t vote for. Classy guy. Just today it was reported he was refusing to postpone votes on Thursday so membera could attend Dianne Feinstein’s funeral.

    The new guy doesn’t seem to be any better:

    As one of his first acts as the acting speaker, Rep. Patrick McHenry ordered former Speaker Nancy Pelosi to vacate her Capitol hideaway office by Wednesday, according to an email sent to her office viewed by POLITICO.

    “Please vacate the space tomorrow, the room will be re-keyed,” wrote a top aide on the Republican-controlled House Administration Committee. The room was being reassigned by the acting speaker “for speaker office use,” the email said.

    Only a select few House lawmakers get hideaway offices in the Capitol, compared to their commonplace presence in the Senate.

    The former speaker blasted the eviction in a statement as “a sharp departure from tradition,” adding that she had given former Speaker Dennis Hastert “a significantly larger suite of offices for as long as he wished” during her tenure.

    Pelosi didn’t even vote today, she was in SF with Fienstein. But don’t let that get in the way of partisan bullshit. And she said she won’t be able to pack up by Wednesday for the same reason. Fucking gouls.

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      Oh McCarthy must have an intense fury for Republicans right now, he just doesn’t want to add fuel to the fire.

      I mean it’s a giant wildfire so it doesn’t really matter but it’s still funny to see him kneeling to them.

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      Never mind that the only role he has as Speaker pro tempore is facilitating the election of a new Speaker. He doesn’t have the power to rule on any other House business that isn’t very narrowly and very specifically tied to that one, single purpose.

      But then again, we’re talking about a Republican here, so power grabbing moves are par for the course.

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    Holy fucking gaslighting, Batman!

    These fuckers live in an alternate universe.

    Will the democrats get a chance to speak? If so, all they have to do is say, “This is what you get when you vote for republicans”

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      They’re so fucking dumb. Gaetz sounds like the smartest in the room, we’re fucked.

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    “If you throw a speaker out that has 99 percent of their conference, that kept government open and paid the troops, I think we’re in a really bad place,” McCarthy told reporters in the Capitol Tuesday morning.

    Guess he’s not talking about himself because he’s got only 96.33%(210/218) of his conference…

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      He didn’t even have that for the CR vote, didn’t like 90 Republicans vote no on it?

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    I imagine him sickcrying right now as he packs his shit to move down into the basement next to the waterheater and boiler for the House.

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      I never WANTED TO BE SPEAKER ANYWAY!

      heavy sobs as he wipes his nose with his sleave

      Stoopid gavel is TOO FUCKING SMALL ANYWAY!

      Kevin then angerly throws a scrapbook of his first week in office across the room and throws himself onto a couch. He hiccup sobs into a pillow as The Cranberries ode to my family plays in the background

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      Remember when he went ahead and moved into that office before being elected speaker? Somebody get me some mint milanos.

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      Nah has confused as to why these Republicans aren’t falling in line like they’re supposed to. He’s speaker after all. They did for a pedo like Denny hastert and Eric cantor and that wank stain Paul Ryan.

      It’s funny that they’re starting to believe their own rhetoric instead of just making back room deals like usual.