PHILADELPHIA ā€” Last week, a local Indiana chapter of Moms for Liberty attracted attention for quoting Adolf Hitler in its newsletter. After the local paper reported the story, the group added additional ā€œcontextā€ but kept the quote. Eventually, after it faced even more scrutiny, the organization removed the quote and apologized in a statement posted to its Facebook group.

That, however, was a big mistake, according to advice at the Moms for Liberty national conferenceā€™s media training session Friday.

ā€œNever apologize. Ever,ā€ said Christian Ziegler, the chairman of the Florida Republican Party. ā€œThis is my view. Other people have different views on this. I think apologizing makes you weak.ā€

He advised the attendees to instead make it clear that the Hitler comment was ā€œvileā€ but to immediately pivot to make the point that Hitler indoctrinated children in schools and that thatā€™s what Moms for Liberty was fighting against. Ziegler warned that any apology would become the headline, so that should be avoided.

You read that right. He said to not apologize for quoting Hitler. Thatā€™s what weā€™re dealing with now.

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    And now youā€™re accusing them of being Naziā€™s. But THEY know theyā€™re not Nazis (well those of them that arenā€™t nazis think theyā€™re not nazis).

    Well then maybe they shouldnā€™t intentionally cough over moments of silence for Holocaust victims.

    And excusing that sort of behavior by claiming itā€™s not the group itā€™s just individuals is nonsense. The group encourages it. The group supports it.

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      Just from a couple of passing references in the passed, I already basically assumed they were far right anti lgbtq+ pieces of shit.

      Itā€™s just now when I see all the ā€œevidenceā€ youā€™re giving in support of that Iā€™m almost reconsidering my original positionā€¦ Ok, but not really.

      They coughed during a moment of silent purportedly to be in recognition of the victims of the holocausts but the context is clear that the intent was just to humiliate this particular political group.

      Thatā€™s not evidence of anything. Itā€™s just another nothing burger.

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        How is the context clear there? It sure isnā€™t clear to me. And isnā€™t there a better way to ā€œhumiliateā€ someone than mocking a Holocaust remembrance? Especially after quoting Hitler?

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          I can see that very little is ever clear to you except your preconceived notions.

          Obviously, I meant that it was the opponents of the Moms for Liberty that were attempting to humiliate the Moms for Liberty by calling for a moment of silence.

          And you keep saying ā€œquoting Hitlerā€ as if that was an indictment on their (the Moms of Liberty) character. They were quoting Hitler in condemnation to his statement, not in support of it.

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            The opponents were not the ones coughing. Donā€™t gaslight.

            And their quote was in big letters in a box by itself with no context, so yeah, it is an indictment of their character. Then they did a half-apology. Then they walked it back. Theyā€™re proud of their Hitler quote and they happily interrupted a moment of silence for Holocaust victims by coughing through it.

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              The opponents were not the ones coughing. Donā€™t gaslight.
              How can you be this dense? Where did I say that the opponents were coughing? Nowhere. So try again to understand what Iā€™m saying because you clearly didnā€™t understand and I donā€™t know how to make it any more clear. Read what I said again and I recommend you try to use your brain this time.

              And their quote was in big letters in a box by itself with no context
              There was context: the content of the article calling for increased ability for individual parents to have control over what their kids are taught. This opposes the concept of centralized control over what children are taught which is what the Hitler quote was promoting.

              The weird thing is that Iā€™m still fairly confident that the Moms of Liberty do have as their end goal to gain control over education curriculum and make it heavily ideologically based on their own anti-lgbtq+, pro religious and eventually racist ideology. But all this ā€œevidenceā€ youā€™re giving me is starting to make me wonder if Iā€™ve been bamboozled.

              None of this changes the fact that you still have failed to condemn a comment on this very thread that is part of your community, supported by your community and is calling for genocide. Which is IMO still far worse than anything Iā€™ve seen you (possibly falsely) accused the Moms of Liberty of doing.