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Have you seen the millions that live in worse conditions (in the US alone), despite empty housing dwarfing those numbers? Just saying: yes, this is bullshit, but I help shake the feeling that this is what comes from showing corporate America that we, as a people, don’t give enough fucks for the latter, so they can more easily get away with this… for even more profit.
In essence, it’s symptomatic of the whole “As long as it’s not me” mentality.
They’ll keep getting worse, so long as we never raze Wall Street to the ground as we should.
Don’t worry though, this country could legalize and mandate productivity shock collars on everyone with less than a million in net worth, and we wouldn’t do shit. We’re every bit as complacent, flaccid, feckless, cowardly, and subservient as our owners believe us to be. Their propaganda infecting everything from education to media for decades has seen to that. We trust the invisible hand of the free market round here, boy I tell you what.
We don’t want to disturb the quarterly earnings of our glorious job creators or our beloved economy🌈, after all. They’ll start pissing prosperity on us any day now! ZAP so this is freedom…
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A long, rambling comment was first written here but moved to a top-level comment as it’s applicable to the whole discussion. This copy was removed after a valid accusation of spam (sorry).
I mean, that’s a ridiculous amount of space compared to when I was out to sea with the Navy…
It sounds like it’s filled with short term renters trying to get startups going. They need a place to shower and sleep while going to a lot of meetings in SF.
I don’t see an issue with that.
Now, if people were signing up to live there for a year at a time while working a full time job…
Yeah. That’s dystopian as fuck
The amount of comments defending this make me sick. No one working full time our hell part time should live in those conditions.
No one working full time our hell part time should live in those conditions.
Great, no one is!
Rather than complain about all the comments, why not read the article?
It’s a month to month contract. That seems to back your idea of startups.
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People in the military shouldn’t live like that either. Honestly what is even the point of America being the leading world power, wastes all of it.
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Amongst the mice fighting for the few crumbs that fall from the table were the fatcats divide the cake, a few will, upon finding a slightly larger crumb, proudly raise it for all to see and shout: “See?! The System works!”
who have to live in these undesirable conditions because the cost of living has gone out of control.
No, they’re living their to sell their startup ideas, and they need a short term SF rental to do that.
If you dont like the military comparison, what about dorm rooms? Or to get less American, hostels?
How nice has your life been that this looks so horrible?
If these pods catch on,
Cats will marry dogs and it’ll rain gold doubloons!
Living in pods
At least read the article, no one is living in pods.
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I did read the article and a person who utilizes these pods spends at least 6-8 hours in them per day
But you didn’t understand it apparently…
There’s communal living spaces, the “pod” is just for sleeping.
You’re acting like they’re sealed up in there the whole time. Or you just don’t understand that people sleep 6-8 hours a day…
And you’re still acting like people are living there long term. You didn’t understand anything in the article
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But you’re still not getting it…
And I’m not trying anymore. Maybe stick to your pg13 porn sub
They spend 6-8 hours a day in them sleeping. With how overly dramatic and fear mongering the rest of your post is I’m not surprised to see you try and spin sleeping in a bed as like being in jail 😂
This seems slightly more private than dorm room or bunk conditions, and we are ok having people live in those kinds of conditions.
It also seems better than being homeless.
I’m shocked that the enhanced profitability for realestate “investors” doesn’t make you feel good about this!
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You can rent a door for $10/night
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You do know this announcing your votes and saying good sir is annoying and smarmy as fuck, right?
Have spaghetti bolognese, good sir.
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You don’t have a door in a hostel separating you from the other 8 beds in the room. These are private compared to those, and that is essentially what these are a replacement for.
And last month this was just a meme…
They have these in Japan as hotels, and they are expensive. It works pretty nicely for that, but renting them as a permanent dwelling is insane…
It won’t be long before they are not allowed to quit their job or leave the area. Welcome to Neo-Digital-Feudalism. History rhymes.
The standard ones were like $35/night last I checked. Not exactly expensive. Housing (at least in 2017) was fairly cheap in Tokyo and the rest of Japan compared to most countries.
They’re not for permanent living so it’s a moot point.
Monthly rent… No one should have to stay in these conditions for that long. By all means, allow it for those who want to, but when it becomes the only affordable means of housing I’ll be leaving, revolting, or both.
It won’t, just like hostels and dorms haven’t become the only affordable housing over the last few decades that they’ve existed for.
Monthly rent doesn’t mean it’s long term 😂
The bizarre thing about this is that the media and tech companies are pretending this is because these people WANT to live in pods.
Not because they can’t afford anything, even when they have tech jobs that should mean they get paid well.
It’s the American dream for all your possessions to fit in a backpack so you can be the salaried unhoused.
No possessions, only consume!
That’s not how this article reads to me. It even mentions high rent is driving the demand.
I didn’t say this article was portraying it as such.
But in general the media and companies do. This “pod people” and “20 people sharing a 2 bedroom” thing has been in the news on and off for a few years already.
Oh I didn’t think ya were! Sorry I probably should’ve put a /s there or something, absolutely agree! ♥
I was responding to iAmTheTot :)
i thought it would be like those japanese sleep pods but these dont even have a door 😭
It’s time. This is only going to get worse. (And this is not a call to violence, but reform. Please don’t misunderstand, and hear me out - I use the words of those wiser than me, and wish to share what I have learned.)
We have tried to act by silent manipulation - a perfectly valid way of exercising our will. But we have failed. In attempting to exercise our will in a way synchronous to those more powerful than us, we have instead allowed them to build us into another herd morality - one of willing slavery. This can stand no longer. Violence against those weaker than you may be a sign of weakness, but using it as the last resort to escape those acting counter to your most basic needs may soon become the only way out.
We must act now. We must wait no longer, or soon there may be no alternative to violent revolt. I fear it may be too late. But in the struggle for the power to control your own life, any means required to exercise that will is justified. They are weak in will, and in their weakness, they resort to the illusion of strength that comes from squashing us under their feet.
They fight for themselves and their own will to power. I respect that - but they have made a fatal mistake, and shown their weakness by resorting to a show of force against us. It is this:
There are two ways to exercise your will over another: to annihilate them, and continue on as one force behind your will. Or to build them up, and change their life for the better - to make them a better, stronger person.
The former is what the aristocrats choose. It carries a great illusion of strength. But the latter is how we must fight - while they trample one another, we must strengthen each other. Though we disagree on how to exercise it, we share a common will: change. If we work together to accomplish that, rather than fight like they do, we can overcome their power easily.
Reshaping another’s will by empowering each other is far more potent than fighting each other. In doing so, as a being of will, you make them indebted to you. And that helps orient their will towards yours. And that is how you achieve true power - by starting a movement. One that can shape the very universe to your will.
I have not started a movement. But I see that this movement is in line with my will. So I will add my small power to it, and seek to add more. We have no name or banner. Or rather, we have too many to reconcile. That is good. Instead of fighting for whose details and name should be plastered on a useless surge of will, let’s all join under whatever banner we choose to fly (and I fly only my own just as many of you), and come together to spark the fire of action.
The revolution began long ago. Perhaps it has burned since the beginning of time, recurring forever, and will never truly end until the universe collapses and our eternal will is ended.
But perhaps in fighting, we can join something eternal. Something not reliant on faith or platonic idealism, but rather a tangible effect that repeats until time itself is extinguished.
I choose to join. I ask you to as well. Join us - join the force, with no name or banner, but a common goal - and live, through your will, forever.
All of this!
You’ve been spamming this bullshit in several communities. Stop it, you’re embarrasing yourself.
I put it in places where I felt it would be appropriate and contribute to the ongoing conversation. I thought I was careful not to be pushy or offensive, or go off topic, but you have the right to disagree.
I’ll make sure to carefully consider whether repeating my opinion in a different conversation with different people about the same topic is constructive.Edit: just noticed I posted twice in the same thread. I wrote it down there but moved it to top level. The copy’s now been removed to clean up the thread, sorry. And thanks for pointing it out, my mistake.
Eeesh. Just get a van and convert it. Park at work. Gym membership for showers.
DMV: “Sir your van cannot be registered using itself as the address”
PO boxes exist
"Sir, the owners’ property protection bill of 2035 requires you to have a permanent address to register a motor vehicle or bicycle, PO boxes don’t fulfill that requirement. In-office bed cubicles are sufficient.
PO boxes never fulfilled that requirement I don’t know why people think you can use a PO box on your driver’s license or vehicle registration. They want a physical domicile where the government can come and govern you.
Ah yes, just spend 30k on a converted van for that 2 weeks you want to stay in a place to pitch your startup to investors. Definitely a better idea than spending $350 in a temporary accommodation……
Here’s a fun thought.
What happens to all these people living in sarcophagi (TIL that’s a real word) when another pandemic/lockdown happen? Do they just go into solitary confinement conditions worse than actual solitary confinement in terms of square footage?
Asking for a friend that happens to be everyone in New York who isn’t rich
The same thing that happens to all the travelers that live in hostels? This is same thing, just arguably better.
Seems cleaner, but similar to the kind of places I lived while getting into tech in SF (maybe ~8 months total)… I have some pretty interesting stories from that time lol. But extra hilarious was years later seeing a dystopian article about one of the very places I had lived (had it down to the Pinterest dev living in the closet):
I stayed in a capsule hotel in Tokyo once. It was awful.
700$ a month!? I mean if this is what it takes to keep more people from slipping through the cracks into homelessness I’m all for it, but fuck the whole system that got us to this point.
Los Angeles bases its occupancy limits on the square footage of a unit, rather than the number of bedrooms:
- One to two people for every 70–119 square feet - Three people for every 120–169 square feet - Four people for every 170–119 square feet - 50 square feet for each additional person
I guess $23 and some change daily compares favorably, cost wise, with just getting a hotel room. But me – I’ll take the hotel room, thanks.
What could possibly go wrong? Such a terrible idea. I hope they have some safety measures in place to prevent sexual assault.
What are your thoughts on hostels and dorms?
Dorms already have a high incidence of assault. This will most certainly be used by tech bros in some capacity. They don’t have the best record for that sort of thing.
why would someone choose this over living literally anywhere else?
Proximity/price and community. Anything in SF proper is going to be, at minimum, 2-3x more expensive. To get this kind of price, you’d need to commute from outside the city.
Re community, the people that live at this kind of place are generally grinding super hard in the tech industry. So trying to live with like-minded workaholics in the same stage of life.
Source: I have lived in SF and east bay, both in places like this, and renting an apt the normal way.