Hasan Is Leaving Leftovers - Leftovers #58
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Hasan is a saint trying his best to make a capitalist understand why capitalism = bad.

He’s not gonna get it, bro. It’s not in his materialist interest.

TBH, Hasan is also not the best debater but every other “socialist” debatebro is a PatSoc chud so I don’t think they’ll do a better job.

He used to be better, but I think because Twitch as a platform allows you to ramble on and on, and you only have to respond to a chat which of course has a much harder time communicating, it worsens your debate skills over time.

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    9·
    1 year ago

    Hasan is a saint trying his best to make a capitalist understand why capitalism = bad.

    He’s not gonna get it, bro. It’s not in his materialist interest.

    Hasan has not moved past Utopian Socialism. See Lenin:

    When feudalism was overthrown and “free” capitalist society appeared in the world, it at once became apparent that this freedom meant a new system of oppression and exploitation of the working people. Various socialist doctrines immediately emerged as a reflection of and protest against this oppression. Early socialism, however, was utopian socialism. It criticised capitalist society, it condemned and damned it, it dreamed of its destruction, it had visions of a better order and endeavoured to convince the rich of the immorality of exploitation.

    But utopian socialism could not indicate the real solution. It could not explain the real nature of wage-slavery under capitalism, it could not reveal the laws of capitalist development, or show what social force is capable of becoming the creator of a new society.

    source: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/mar/x01.htm

    • LibsEatPoop [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      No, his criticisms of capitalism are based on materialism and the nature of wage labor, not just “oppression” and “exploitation”, so this criticism doesn’t apply. He doesn’t endeavour to convince capitalists that they’re morally wrong and should stop, he openly talks about how if things don’t change, revolution will be inevitable. It’s pretty basic Marxist stuff.

      At best, it’s like trying to make a class traitor out of Ethan. So, this shows how even the most well-meaning of Libs and SucDems are still capitalists and that class traitors are rarer than Shiny Pokemon, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE A COMPANY THAT EMPLOYS PEOPLE.