After years of reddit/twitter/facebook propping up fascism/bigotry with algorithms & bots I’m honestly surprised and relieved to be in an online space that clearly rejects their ideology.

They can have reddit/facebook/twitter. AFAIC the only way to reach some of these people is to leave them alone long enough to realize on their own.

Lemmy.world admins are doing an amazing job dealing with everything. Their recent decision to defederate from exploding heads (or whatever its called) really goes to show that they’re in it for the right reasons.

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    Genuine question: are you just trying to censor any viewpoint that you disagree with? Because it sure as shit seems like you guys are trying to make this into another left-wing circlejerk where anything even remotely right wing is immediately removed regardless of how level-headed or civil it’s presented.

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      are you just trying to censor any viewpoint that you disagree with?

      Nope. I just don’t like fascists/bigots.

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      Oh go back to your own circlejerks. You’ve got plenty. Truth Social, 4chan, Twitter…

      You do not belong here.

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        You do not belong here

        My crime? Having a different opinion. You sound awfully fascist to me.

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          Your different opinion is that those who think LGBT people should die should be allowed to spread that opinion

          You are wrong, deal

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      where anything even remotely right wing is immediately removed regardless of how level-headed or civil it’s presented.

      There is nothing civil about taking people’s rights away, dehumanizing people, and destroying our biosphere. Fascism is inherently uncivil regardless of presentation.

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        Any authoritarian ideology left or right is abhorrent to humanity. People use the term fascist too loosely, I seen it apply to capitalist minded very socially liberal people, disagreeing to hard to centre left ideas, being against Russia or China, to being generally pro liberal democracy and pro-establishment.

        On the flip side I seen pro-Russian disinfo on hard left subreddits, in which Russia acts like a fascist state.

        Disagreement is healthy, but if you can’t say it in public don’t say it on the internet.

        You know what, I hope admins find a way to make money from the fediverse and make a full-time job or start a company to turn a profit. People getting paid dedicating themselves to fediverse will improve the experience for everyone involved.

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      Most people don’t have an issue with old conservatism, as it still had the goal of making the country better.

      Modern conservatism is more focused on contrarianism and depriving various groups of their rights or quality of life. Given the tolerance paradox, people outside of this mindset don’t want to allow discussion in that area to spread.

      Due to this shift in conservatism, communities that, on their face, seem like communities with just a different political leaning have had to tolerate this bigotry.

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        There hasn’t been a shift in conservatism. There has, however, been a shift in the left’s labeling of it.

        Right: “don’t chop off the penis of children”

        Left’s response: “OMG you’re literally commuting genocide to trans people!!!”

        Yeah, no. Not buying it. And banning anything you disagree with in the guise of “anti-fascism” is just the Orwellian icing on the cake.

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          Yeah tbh trans discussion isn’t even my space so I’m not even going to get involved. I just don’t want to have an opinion of others lives or belief systems in this case.

          Personally, my only gripe really is that I feel that male bisexuality should be more accepted. Not directed at anyone in particular.

          That’s it really.

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            Cool. Glad you have an opinion. Isn’t it great that you’re allowed to express it civilly without a horde of intolerant losers trying to censor you for it?

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              Just by saying that the left “wants to chop of children’s penis” you are spreading misinformation.

              No, the take is this: if someone feels like they are born in the wrong body shouldn’t they be free to do whatever makes them feel better? Should they not be provided with all the mental and physical help to make a decision whatever that would be?

              Ps not everyone is American and those US takes which are “slightly to the right” for you are Hella-right to a lot of us.

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          Right: “don’t chop off the penis of children”

          What about hermaphrodites where ambiguous genitalia could be damaging to their long-term health?

          IIRC, removal of the inappropriate penis (external genitalia) is the preferred choice in today’s medial science for fixing 46 XX DSD. Which is a pretty simple case of internal-organs are female, the child identifies as a female, but for various mutation/birth defect reasons, she was born with a penis (Completely non-functioning mind you, as all the internal parts are female).

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      I have seen more people with different ideologies beliefs and opinions have actual discussions and civil debates here since I joined then I have anywhere in a long time. I feel safe to comment and share my opinions because even if someone were to disagree and share a different opinion, I know I am not going to get a barrage of mean and hateful replies and messages.

      Prior to 2015, I had friends from many walks of life. Sometimes we’d have some heated discussions, but no one was yelling, being racist, spewing hate etc.

      Since 2016, most of my conservative friends actively eliminated everybody who did not think like them. It was mind-boggling how many people I knew asked who I voted for and if it wasn’t for Trump they let me know I was no longer welcome to be their friend. I didn’t even vote for Hillary and yet it was extremely difficult to even convince them of that. They forgot that there were other people running in the race apparently.

      I think if you stick around long enough you will see many viewpoints and discussions here.