• ShepherdPie@midwest.social
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    2 days ago

    Maybe because people aren’t given a choice as everything is dictated by the manufacturers.

    Slapping 10 year old hardware into a phone with a small screen is a guaranteed way to make people not buy your phone but that doesn’t mean people don’t want small screens, headphone jacks, replaceable batteries, etc. They just don’t want the garbage manufacturers lump in with these great features so that these phones don’t cut into their high-margin device sales.

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      1 day ago

      You forget that all phones used to be small.

      Also all those examples you gave apply to all phones, not just small ones.

      Apple sold a 13 Mini, which was nearly identical to the 13, as much as is physically possible, and it was a dud.

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        You forget that all phones used to be small.

        I haven’t forgotten that. You may have forgotten that all phones came with swappable batteries, small screens, and headphone jacks and they sold millions of them for decades. That proves these are important features because they sold well, right?

        Also all those examples you gave apply to all phones, not just small one

        What does that even mean? All phones come with old hardware and are poorly built outside of a couple key features?

        Apple sold a 13 Mini, which was nearly identical to the 13, as much as is physically possible, and it was a dud.

        So identical that they were nearly the same price which could put a lot of buyers off if they feel like they’re getting less value for their money. Consumers also think that 1/4lb burgers are better than 1/3lb burgers because they’re bigger as A&W found out in the 1980s when trying to compete against McDonalds. “The market deciding” doesn’t mean anything rational happened or that it reflects reality. You’re simply cherrypicking the result you want and shaping it to fit your argument.

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          You may have forgotten that all phones came with swappable batteries, small screens, and headphone jacks and they sold millions of them for decades. That proves these are important features because they sold well, right?

          Important to consumers, yes. Important to OEMs? No, quite the opposite. I don’t think that applies to screen size.

          What does that even mean?

          What did you even mean if not to imply that people weren’t buying specifically large phones because they didn’t include these anti-features?

          So identical that they were nearly the same price which could put a lot of buyers off if they feel like they’re getting less value for their money

          Why would they feel like they were getting lass value when it was the size they wanted, and had everything else also?

          Consumers also think that 1/4lb burgers are better than 1/3lb burgers because they’re bigger

          So then you agree consumers want bigger phones?

          You’re simply cherrypicking the result you want and shaping it to fit your argument.

          Pot meet kettle.

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        I had a 13 mini until a month ago. It’s one hell of a phone, and honestly, I’d still be using it if iPhones didn’t keep their value so well and Apple weren’t such a shit company.

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        “Dud” is really strong language. These companies have distorted metrics for what is a successful product.

        Google has a reputation for killing products because of similar wild expectations for ROI.

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            Well, Um. There are 3% of us!

            My point is I assume they didn’t lose money on them. They feel the scale of profit needs to be higher, else it’s not worth their time. And I think it’s a bummer that they run things this way.

            That 3% would be a lot of customers to other reasonably sized companies. Right?