If you think things are bad now, then, brace yourself: it is about to get a whole lot worse. If you are alarmed at the speed with which the Trump administration has set about dismantling every institution of American government and every pillar of the international order, you must understand that this is not just the initial burst of activity, the “shock and awe” phase after which things will settle down: if anything, the pace will continue to accelerate.
The world has never before been faced with such a threat. The United States has handed the nuclear codes to a madman, a criminal, a would-be dictator and a moron, all in the same person. Whatever the purpose to which he directs these powers – to impress his dictator friends, to further enrich himself and his cronies, to seize absolute power or just to watch the world burn – we must hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
Yeah, you can read about it in the project 2025 page online…we know what is coming…we have for a few years…
Trump is going to get worse until he’s stopped. That has always been the case.
If was so easy dictators wound not have existed.
people were literally going back in time to try to assassinate him before the election. that should give us an indication of how bad it is going to get.
Iowa passed a law changing their state’s interpretation of the Civil Rights Act to be one that excludes Gender Identity, they claimed they were doing it in order to protect women. This marks the first time that a group was removed from a protected status.
Chaos and Anarchy will break out in the US soon, the bad kind though.
not chaos and anarchy. any disruptions to order and civility will get crushed.
This will end with blood in the streets.
Yeah but who’s? I have a bad feeling it won’t be theirs, it’ll probably be the vulnerable and the enemies of the MAGA.
The opposition to the MAGA cult can’t just sleep for too long on letting them terrorize everyone’s livelihoods since they’ve gotten the backing and enabling of their ‘leader’. They won’t sleep to upset everyone’s lives.
it’ll probably be the vulnerable and the enemies of the MAGA.
Well, it’s starting with ours. It’ll end with theirs.
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Damn this is the edgiest shit I’ve said since I was in high school, holy fuck
MAGA are predominantly fatter and older, we can take them!
And more hateful and violent. More vengeful and racist. More armed and stockpiled. More members of the police. Etc.
Are there any left wing militias?
The idea they’re all dumb and y’allqaida rednecks is a joke that people have been playing on themselves.
And the punchline is not funny.
Its more likely to be guerrilla style warfare, at least thats my guess.
MAGAs are going to be hit hard with the cost cuttings and job eliminations. Sit back. They are the ones who are violent and they will take that violence to their source of problems when they wise up enough. It may take them awhile to work through the propaganda and bullshit though.
They are the ones who are violent and they will take that violence to their source of problems when they wise up enough.
They’re as likely to direct that violence at us as against their leadership. They’re authoritarian enablers who want to be abused. Most of them will never wise up, let alone rise up.
That’s the whole point of starting off with scapegoats. “Ermagod, the transgirl trying to use the bathroom in another state raised the price of eggs”. Or of course “we’re breaking up families and sending children to concentration camps at Guantanamo because they’re criminals “ and even “Canada deserves it because we need to stop fentanyl”
Will they ever wise up though?
Scoreboard shows these people, the most violent among them, are disconnected from reality and blindly trust Trump and his cronies.
I can’t even get my MAGA mom to believe Musk did a Nazi salute. “Apparently he was throwing his heart to the crowd.” Granted, she’s not politically engaged, she just listens to my dad who stopped watching Fox News because it wasn’t conservative enough. So yeah.
MAGA are willing enough to storm the capitol, they’d be easier to convince to “rise up” than any liberal i’ve ever seen.
Rise up against whom though? Their violence is not driven on principle. It’s out of trust and loyalty to a con man who told them to “fight like hell”. What makes you think they’ll turn on him? Other than a tiny handful of folks, when have the leapords eating their faces stopped them from offering their faces up on silver platters at the leopard’s feast?
I wouldn’t bet on MAGA suddenly waking up to class conflict to the point of guillotines unless Trump points his grubby little finger at them.
What a world that would be.
What’s really got me sweating is the fact that we’re living in sorta good times. A lot of people are struggling of course, and serious issues are unfolding, but imagine what the world could look like if we get hit by the next Great Recession or Great Depression. Things could quickly go from very bad to much, much worse.
I’m no economist, but I hear the economists are not thrilled with what Trump is doing to the economy. We’re headed for a recession at minimum, if those folks are anything to go by.
the extent that Trump has gone to remove barriers to committing atrocities likely corresponds to the extent he intends to commit them
The process of global de-dollarisation,much talked about, is being hastened far sooner than I think most people (at least those not privvy to whatever intelligence existed on Trump and others’ motivations and intentions) expected.
The question as to whether the country with the largest military in the world can accept a much-reduced international role (and much reduced share of unearned global wealth to go with it), without kicking off a kinetic world war three will likely be answered shortly.
Trump and Musk appear wide open to exploitation/manipulation, without anywhere near the required experience or intelligence to maintain the US’s international position.
Unstable times ahead.
The chuds at the top (most of them, anyways) know that this will likely lead to ww3, and that’s been the plan. The US is the preeminent military power, so they feel safe, and there’s a shit load of money to be made in war and instability.
The chuds at the bottom voting for US isolationism don’t understand just how much an interconnected world benefits them and how bad dedollarization is going to be for them. But then that goes along with a lot of people not understanding the benefits of concepts like soft power, humanitarian aid, foreign assistance, etc.
The chuds at the bottom are rooting for dedollarization, because they put all their life savings into $TRUMP
If the people at the top’s plan is actually WW3, then they’re stupider than they let on.
Sure, in theory it’s profitable, in practice though? All you’re left with is a wrecked world that’s worse to live in in every possible way, and that’s assuming nukes won’t fly
It’s literally the broken window fallacy, which to me has always been a dead obvious problem. Stability, cooperation, and peaceful progress and development has always, and always will be, much more beneficial to everyone in the long run
These people are literally enemies of humanity
God, I so wish that an average American was smart enough to realize this. I feel like all they care about are their gas prices.
Even worse, the chuds might be dead of malnourishment, preventable vírus diseases, violence, before the consequences of dedollarization hits them
The process of global de-dollarisation,much talked about, is being hastened
China has a thriving economy without the RMB being anyone’s reserve currency.
I’m not really sure what your point is. I assume you are saying the US can have a thriving economy and not be the global reserve currency? If so, a couple of points:
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The US’s debts will come due as it loses global reserve currency status. Do you think it can pay those debts?
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US and other capitalists outsourced production to China due to the lack of collectively bargained labour agreements or environmental protections. It was cheap. Are you saying the US could ‘Make America Great Again’ by making it a sweatshop!? Because I don’t think that is what Trump voters had in mind for themselves.
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global de-dollarisation
This is the real problem for us in the US. Currently debt doesn’t matter: that’s stupid and short sighted but it doesn’t matter. I’m not entirely sure what global de-dollarisation means but US debt is going to matter a hell of a lot more when we’re treated like any other economy
De-dollarisation is the dismantling of the petrodollar arrangement, and so the dollar’s role as global reserve currency, which caused the world to buy oil in dollars for the last fifty years. Surely this agreement was the most important geo-political event, alongside stuff like the collapse of the Soviet Union, across this time period. (I wonder if political historians would point to other geo-political events that are not well known.)
The petrodollar arrangement was an agreement that Richard Nixon made with the Saudis in the early seventies where the Saudis agreed to only sell oil in US dollars in return for military support. The agreement was a fifty year deal.
In order for countries to buy oil they needed dollars. This has allowed the US to fund its debt by printing more and more US dollars, ultimately the world has paid for that US spending.
Trump is showing in real time that the US cannot now be relied upon to provide security, so that half of the petrodollar arrangement is gone. This very much suits the likes of Russia (for historical reasons) and China (for sound economic reasons) who do not want a world dominated by the US.
Trump is playing into the likes of Putin’s hands fantastically. Not only is Putin getting what he wants from Trump in Ukraine, Trump is also voluntarily dismantling America’s position as global leader.
Buckle up.
Here’s a few of my predictions ftom election night and the following days:
… "Edit:
Just wanted to add this moment of realization from a CBS news personality.
He was talking about how people shouldn’t be afraid, that America is the oldest democracy on earth, that democracy wil survive, and things will be OK…
… And he continued on talking about how trump likely has full control of the government, the house, the senate, the courts, and an immunity ruling.
After the last words came out of his mouth he looked at the camera and paused and said, (paraphrasing) ** " I’d like to maybe take back the first part of what I said, we should be afraid" **
I promise you he will order shootings on 5th avenue.
If you think I, we, us, anyone will be OK, like the half of the nation that elected him, you haven’t been listening.
People voted for an economy and against scary immigrants.
They also get the storm, the purge, the accelerationists, the camps, the executions, the prisons, smothered hope for the last possibility of saving this earth from environmental collapse.
They literally want Armageddon.
I mean actually fucking literally.
Once you learn how many in the Republican party, and supreme court, are members of NAR and 7MM - literally groups with the purpose of bringing Jesus back.
Nobody is going to be OK ."
https://lemmy.ca/post/32433434/12637803
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I believe his (and Putin’s) goal is to destabilize (destroy) the western order, devalue the current global currency (USD), crash the central banks, fully shift economic power eastward, inflate crypto.
Tariffs on all north American trading partners will cause harm to the entire continent and beyond.
If none can trade, none can profit. If the tarrifs go to gov, with this admin, will they really?
The only thing pro wall street will be how they siphon off whatever wealth is left, pump and dump, crash and burn.
https://lemmy.ca/post/33768636/13042232
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And here’s a little freebie from Alexander dugin - Putin’s philosopher and author of Foundations of Geopolitics - about Curtis Yarvin, trumpism, and monarchy.
https://alexanderdugin.substack.com/p/in-the-united-states-three-completely
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The end is nigh, my friends. Very nigh.
And American still just going to whine on the internet and do nothing about it.
If anything this has completely vaporized the “checks and balances” democratic system everyone was so obsessed about.
Americans need to update the constitution where people have the power to dethrone a dictator as of right now theres nothing right?
They already have it.
The 2nd amendment.
Ah yeah, my semi automatic hunting rifle is really going to stop the armored military and the drones, and the mass data collection. Me and 1000 other people sure will make a difference right up until they shut off the internet and mow us down.
Tanks, jets, and rocket launchers are good against other armies. They’re pretty shitty against anonymous civilians. It’s why the US lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And in the US, the civilians would have 2 other advantages:
- A military that would be more reluctant to kill other Americans on American soil
- The enemy wouldn’t be the military, but poloticians.
The US has way better surveillance of irs own cotizens than it had of Afghanistan. They will send Homeland Security after any militia before it becomes a credible threat to them.
If the end result is the same, fighting is the only choice.
Search for “Winter on Fire”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzNxLzFfR5w
can’t get it without logging in
I agree that a full scale war against the US military using small arms is probably not likely to go well for those attempting it, but assassinating a president is a different thing altogether. America has assassinated many presidents.
Yeah lol that would never happen.
If americans can’t even form strong, lasting peaceful protests how could they form an armed resistance against literally the most advanced and powerful military in the world? Even US police is equipped with military APCs - what is your glock gonna do about that?
The 2nd amendment never made sense in the contemporary world. The casualty rate would be 1 to HUNDREDS just through sheer technological and skill difference and no uprising can possibly sustain that.
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Yeah but this sort of cartoon type of dictator is not realistic.
They always have some public support and as long as you lie and control some useful idiots it’s never going to be an ideal rise up people think it would be. It’ll be chaos with some resistance that’ll be marked as terrorists and nothing will be clear enough for “taking down some baddies with me” scenarios.
Luigi mangione is being tried as a terrorist with the maximum sentencing of the death penalty
Just sayin’
What Luigi did was just.
However, the 2A is specifically, ahem, targeted at removing government.
The 2A was about maintaining state militias to catch runaway slaves and to suppress slave rebellions. The south wanted it, the north didn’t care. At the time the amendments were being written, here was little to no discussion of the idea that an armed citizenry would be able to resist state tyranny. They had just fought a revolution and had a very clear idea of what it took to break away from England. It was a lot more than farmers with hunting rifles or posses of slave-catchers.
I’m not saying that armed resistance is not necessary. I’m just saying the 2A was never really for that. But there are many examples of barely armed citizen’s movements overthrowing governments. Without compliance, without legitimacy, their power can be broken.
I’d somehow never heard this argument before, so I found some random article about it: https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2023/06/slavery-militias-and-methodologies-thoughts-on-carl-boguss-madisons-militia
I can’t speak to the quality of the source above, but they argue that your basic thesis is true, but is not the full story. All the former colonies (including non-slave states) wanted militias instead of a peacetime national military, which was as much or more of a driver for adoption of the 2nd amendment than the idea of using militias for appearing slave rebellions.
But that’s just literally the first article I read about it, so I dunno.
I agree that what he did was just, the government which is supposed to uphold the 2nd amendment does not was my point.
The GOP shows that yes, you can say the quiet part aloud and still have supporters
I’m just hoping it can stay duct taped together long enough for me to get out of country. I don’t know if it will :/ I’ve been doing the protest thing, donating to resistance efforts, boycotts, building community, been doing all of this for years. I’ve never seen it tangibly help and I’m one of the first to get black bagged if/when this goes full genocide (am trans). I can’t do it anymore, my body is aging, my brain is a disaster. I wish I could keep fighting. At least I can bring my labor somewhere else and stop letting my taxes fund the madness that is the US government
Thank you for doing what you can. It’s the only thing we can do. No one can save the world alone.
I hope you get somewhere safe.
stop letting my taxes fund the madness that is the US government
Surprise! FATCA taxes Americans no matter where in the world that they work.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Account_Tax_Compliance_Act
There are exemptions for most of that if I’m in another country long enough, and ideally I’ll renounce citizenship entirely down the line
FEIE
Thank you so much for doing your part. I don’t blame you for feeling defeated. I hate defeatist attitudes, but it’s hard not to feel like that.
If you want to know what Trump will do, look at the men he most admires (Putin, Kim Jong Un, etc)
And Hitler. He keeps (or kept) a copy of
Mein Kampfhis quotes by his bed, and we all know how his neighbours ended up.It was a book of Hitler quotes.
Ah, my mistake. I should’ve known he couldn’t keep his attention on one thing long enough to read a full page of text.
Which is weird because he can’t read
Dont brace yourself. Unleash your frustration and direct it at anything that proudly displays the star spangled banner.
The american people will have to stand up for themselves and it‘s gonna be hard and brutal. Cause no one else can help you with this.
I found the recent developments in Serbia quite interesting and it might help to get an idea what a widespread resistance from the people could look like. Video on Serbia
It’s going to require daily nationwide protests going on for months and months with national participation approaching 1-2% of the population (4-8 million) on weekends and clear and actionable demands (resignation of Trump and his goons and corrupt members of the judiciary).
From my experience living in the US, I don’t think this is likely (I do hope I am wrong). Geographic size can actually be managed by having many thousands of protest sites by key admin buildings all throughout the country. The bigger issue is perhaps a lack of experience “operationalizing” beliefs and standing up to a thugs and oligarchs.
When the Second Great Depression starts, that’s when shit will hit the fan. Once the bread and circuses end and the starving begins.
It could be like months away too based off them wanting to cut like a million fed jobs and dump a shitload of commercial real estate onto the market.
And unlike the first one, we now have 3 guns per person in the US.
This is gonna be some bad juju ahead.
I wonder if the European bars will have little “For the Cause” jars similar to how Celtic owned businesss has them to support the IRA here in the US.
The only thing at this point that could prevent the USA from annexing Canada is a civil war to deal with. So yeah, it’s gonna get worse before it gets better.
And that doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen. For the most part Americans are complaining but not willing to actually do anything about the situation.
I’ve heard people say the US couldn’t invade us because it would cause an uprising, but they aren’t willing to stand up and fight for their own democracy. They won’t stand up to fight for ours.
We’ve never been in a situation even remotely like this before. A lot of people aren’t sure that doing a coup would be fighting for our democracy because removing them from office would be removing the, as far as any evidence can show, legally elected government. It’s about as bad as it’s been in nearly 200 years, but what if we “destroy the democracy to save it”?
Invading a country that most Americans like more than their federal government is an entirely different question. This current bullshit is disgusting and heartbreaking.
At this point, American democracy has already been destroyed.
The democracy we knew. Whether there is a new one, depends on us.
It always has.
Last time we had anything remotely close to this was 160 years ago. And this time the sane ones would be the ones going against the federal government.
It’s… we’re in the unknown as a country.
Also doing an uprising or outright causing regional sessions would be a lot more devastating if the US is already at war with someone else. It’d cause chaos in everything from logistics to the chain of command, that’s not even getting into how it’d fuck up all asset control.
Just to use an example say the Trump declared war on Canada next week and only California declares secession. That alone would fuck up so much more on all sides than just California declaring independence.
As you said we’re in uncharted waters and it’s best to play it safe, any actions not carefully considered could even strengthen Trump’s position.
Americans now want to invade and are cheering this on. It’s inevitable.
Bull fucking shit. Equating a minority of MAGAs that want to invade with most Americans only worsens the problem. Canadians could benefit from recognizing they have plenty of allies in the US and if the federal government chooses to invade our neighbors it’ll spark tremendous outrage and new alliances with Canada from blue states. Just to be crystal clear most Americans do not want this and see Canada as an important ally despite what you see on social media.
Yeah, IMO war with Canada will be the trigger for kicking off balkanization.
Can it be called a minority when more people voted for trump? And can’t just assume people who didn’t vote wouldn’t support him.
Bigger question is how many Americans not in the military would willingly sign up to fight against Canada, and what would happen if there started being drafts. Even supporters of wars turn out to be cowards when they or their children are actually forced to participate.
So that is likely the scenario that would turn trump supporters against the US and lead to inner conflict and unify both sides of the political spectrum.
Who want to invade and are cheering it on? His followers will agree with anything he does, obviously, but who else?
Once “support our troops” kicks in and Canadians become those people who fight against heroic American soldiers, I fear the majority of the USA will support crushing Canada. A country doesn’t need to have done anything for it to play out this way in the USA. There’s a vast reservoir of “we’re the best in the world” to tap into.
American Exceptionalism will be the death of us all
The “support our troops” movement went right into the shitter around the Iraq War. A majority of Americans do not approve of our military operations or expenditure.
And that was when the operations in question were across the entire world almost as physically far from the US as it is possible to be. If the government tries to start a war in our literal backyard you’re going to see a different side of Americans.
I wish you’d see it without having to come to that, but, unfortunately, I do share a lot of your views about our inaction. We’ve never had to deal with something like this before. We don’t know what to do about it. The obvious solution could cause even more problems that we can’t foresee, and would guarantee the complete destruction of whatever hero carries it out. Most people aren’t willing to die for their political beliefs unless they’re backed against the wall. We are very swiftly approaching that wall though.
i guess i didn’t really need free information about the weather or how fucked is the climate. i know it’s fucked and seasons change. fuck science after all.
Never submit to the POV that the services they are dismantling are free. You pay for them. I pay for them. We deserve these services and they are being stolen from us just like when tax funded research is locked behind patents and pay walls.
well put
