Summary

Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.

Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to “Russian aggression” and prefers calling it the “Ukraine conflict.”

This shift follows Trump’s peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine’s President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a “dictator.”

The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    American here: make it the G6. I am 100% serious. Trump is not your friend, and the rest of our fucking government is demonstrably inept in the extreme in terms of resisting this fascist takeover.

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      Amen. Also American. Cut America off. Do not stand for this stupidity. If American voters regain their minds in 2 or 4 years, we can all figure out how to move on. If not, America doesn’t deserve your grace and goodwill when it’s showing none. Ostracize us for the good of the world.

      Fucking clown.

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      Another American here. Yeah, we’re not Europe’s friend anymore. I hate it, but it’s true. Dear Leader has made it abundantly clear that unless you are somehow enriching him and/or his billionaire cabinet, he’s not interested in being your friend. You can hold up as many past agreements and treaties his predecessors signed and it won’t mean jack shit to him. Putin is his daddy because Putin loves oligarchs, and wants to be an oligarch sooooooo bad.

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      honest to god embargo us. saction us. you will do more to help our people by cutting donald trump at the knees than anything else you could do. we need help making his cult realize what they’ve done is bad and i think the only way that happens is if food gets expensive

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      Yes, PLEASE! The rich fucks need to start feeling the consequences of this bullshit where it hurts. It’s the only domestic demographic that can offer enough pressure to motivate this administration to change their behavior.

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      It’s going to end up that way whether EU does something now or not. He’ll just pick up his ball and leave like he’s done every time so far.

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      I’ve come to notice that the rest of the world is already beginning to leave us behind. The realization came with the TikTok ban. Soon as I heard that TikTok could be banned, I started looking for alternatives because I was pretty sure it was going to happen. I stumbled upon XHS by accident and about a month before everyone else. I was absolutely fucking blown away by China. It’s unlike we’ve been told in almost all respects…

      I really came to realize that other countries are leaving us in their dust and it’s only a matter of time before we’re not the Apex predator anymore, and frankly I can hardly blame them.

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        Have you uh… actually been to China? Or talked to anyone from China (in real life)? I do both, quite often. Without fail, anyone with the means is actively trying to leave. And not in a “grass is greener” way. Those emigrating to America are fully aware of the political turmoil, they’d just rather be out before it’s not physically possible to leave.

        It’s unlike we’ve been told in almost all respects…

        Based on testimony from a demonstrably censored platform?

        I’m not arguing for American superiority or that the vacuum won’t be easily filled by other countries. But that change isn’t automatically an upgrade.

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          Have you uh… actually been to China?

          Yes. Almost a dozen times.

          Or talked to anyone from China (in real life)?

          Yes.

          Without fail, anyone with the means is actively trying to leave.

          Have you thought about why? Ask them to describe the US. They’ve been told an astonishing amount of propaganda about the US that is all incredibly untrue. I’m telling you. Actually talk to these people that you’re “in contact” with about how they view the US. They believe that every US Citizen is a millionaire. They think we have good healthcare. They think we all live in great houses. They think we all work a few hours a week and get paid a lot for it… It’s never ending. So I mean, yeah. If you get told there are places like that in the world of course you would want to leave your home country.

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            So you’ve been in the last few months since you learned these great things? Or was it before Covid, when people were physically caged into their apartments?

            Was it only to the sterilized foreigner hotels on business trips? Or did you ever stay with locals who had to register your passport with the local police?

            Were you able to spend physical currency or was everything already hooked up to official biometric identification (payments tied to socials tied to state id)?

            I’m not asking to be confrontational, but the shiny foreigner facing China of yesteryear is nothing like the domestic atmosphere of China today. Their international digital presence is as carefully managed as their local platforms.

            The locals I’ve met definitely have a positive view of the US, but things have gotten very dark very quickly under Xi. Think about why they could have started their emigration at any time but are choosing now.

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              So you’ve been in the last few months since you learned these great things? Or was it before Covid, when people were physically caged into their apartments?

              I married a Chinese national and spend a month or two in China every year since.

              Look man. You need to fucking stop. You look like an absolute douchebag.

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        My wife found XHS (aka RedNote) as well. I did not realize the extent of anti-China propaganda that I had inadvertently bought into, and like you, I was absolutely blown away.