Anonymous: Trump is making America weaker and we’ll exploit it. The international hacker community is preparing to strike against U.S. infrastructure and calls for public awareness against incoming fascism

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    Exploit it you say? Please get in line behind the russians, the chinese snd pretty much all arab countries

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    Anything supposedly said by “Anonymous” as a hacker group should always be treated with immense skepticism.

    There do exist somewhat legitimate sub-factions that actually take serious actions and do serious ops, and also semi-legitimate “outlets” for their statements… but there’s also an overwhelming amount of smokescreen bullshit “anon news outlets” and little script kiddies running around. It’s important/intentional that those continue existing as smoke screen for the more “serious” factions.

    Beyond that, being an anonymous group with no real methods of confirming membership to outsiders (insiders can just check if you’re in the private IRCs and etc) it means that just about anyone and everyone can make some big declaration like this. The proof will be in the results, not some announcement that could be made by a rando.


    All that said, there’s convincing and considerable evidence (collected by Krebs) that members of Elon’s DOGE group have background in the actual hacking ops spaces.

    No matter who is really making these threats/warnings, I think things are going to get pretty dire in the US government IT space. It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security, and now you have a bunch of young adult tech-bros with no true accountability running roughshod over all of it. Then there’s the fact that more than one of them have “serious black hat hacker” backgrounds.

    Going to be one wild ride.

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      little script kiddies running around

      Yeah, they’re running around the Treasury Dept right now.

      It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security

      Having worked with government agencies and a lot of large private organizations the thing that keeps them mostly secure is the amount of red tape involved with things. Patching a production system requires a teleconference with at least five different people and no one person knows everything.

      The idiots without any security experience coming in to “streamline” things will just make the systems even more fragile and insecure.

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      I don’t know about government overall, but the military and HHS have has some of the most stringent security stances I’ve encountered. To the point where just working for them was a massive chore. (How effective they were I guess I don’t know, but working for them sucked.)

      That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.

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        Often, ridiculous and onerous procedural security is hiding massively incompetent actual software security or is used to constrain people from discovering security by obscurity holes. Everything I’ve done in government interfacing as a vendor would seem to confirm this, at least back when I was doing it a few years ago. You’d be hard pressed to convince me it’s changed much since.

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        I had to help the SSA implement SAML authentication once and they weren’t even allowed to share their screen so I could see what they were doing. Totally agree that it’s a massive chore.

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        That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.

        I mean, it’s not a secret that governments everywhere run really outdated software (think things like Windows 7 and older) because “it works”, so it really shouldn’t be too surprising.

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        I once answered a phone call inside a com closet on base. Military IT was already escorting me. Security came because the cameras in the closet detected the camera on my phone. It’s definitely physically tight security.

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      It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs

      I’ve seen Muni and Regional gov and also dotcoms.

      The Govs I’ve been at were crazy-tight about security. They were unionized and could decide based on conscience vs costs. Dotcoms, though, followed a different trending, one that really focused on costs.

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      I guess its pointless to believe their words since there is no way to know if its them. Just look at what they actually do and judge based on that.

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    Will it be like when they launched a load of DDoS attacks against Sony, of which the only impact was annoying regular people and doing nothing to the company they were supposedly going after?

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      They have always been techno-punks: anti-establishment and more style than substance. That being said, if nothing else, they were able to shine a light on shitty people and that’s more than most folks do.

      I wish they were getting into organizations and dumping gigs of documents detailing illegal and anti-consumer/citizen activities, but money and law enforcement really goes after anything with an actually impact that might affect wealth. No one actually gives a shit about a website being down. (Excepting like… Amazon or Google and good fucking luck with that.)

      So it’s like a flaming bag of shit left on a porch. They take care of it and shout “you damn punks!” But if you burn the barn down, every cop in the county will be interrogating everyone they can find until you are caught.

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    As much and as little that anonymous means, because of the name, because of what the name implies, because of what they do, claim they do, and well, we don’t know what they do… As much as all of that is true, it’s AWESOME to hear from them again, if it is them…

    I can’t wait to see “real” anonymous actions again, lord knows we can use it

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        The final season they steal all of the money the ruling elites had been using to control the world, ending their grip on society.

        Could also be argued that the dark army did the most evil shit and the government siding with the deus group rather than taking the side of the citizens is why things spiraled after wiping out the debt history of everyone.

        Elon and the other people pulling the strings on society losing all their money would not be a bad thing for civilization at all

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      That’s kind of inevitable right now. The most important thing is making sure Trump and the GOP get the blame. Well, them or Russia.

      Actually, the best targets aren’t the government. It’s big business.

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        That’s gonna be a big ask. Republicans don’t even get the blame for the things they do themselves. Oligarch propaganda is everywhere and pernicious, look at how the average working class American has accepted the notion that low level bureaucrats are the reason they’re poor.

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        They’ll blame it on Obama, Hillary, Biden, communism, LGBTQ, Black people, immigrants, etc.

        They never take the blame - there’s always an ‘other’ to demonize.

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    Ah, Anonymous—the digital equivalent of a fart in a hurricane. Trump’s America? Weakness isn’t new—it’s baked into the propaganda circus we’ve called democracy since Reagan. You think script kiddies and Elon’s crypto-bros “hacking fascism” will fix anything? Please. The real op is watching tech oligarchs and politicians collude while we argue about which flavor of dystopia we’re slurping.

    Infrastructure attacks? Bold move, Cotton. Let’s see how it works out when grandma’s dialysis machine gets bricked by some edgelord’s Python script. If you want revolution, stop fetishizing IRC nostalgia and touch grass. Until then, this is just digital graffiti on a burning trash barge.

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    Don’t need to open Twitter to watch it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI27LEimfYg

    I’m also remembering an IT crowd scene where they argue about which of them is in Anonymous, and I can’t find it now. Does anyone have a link handy? Unless I am misremembering

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      I don’t know if this is the point you’re making, but IIRC, they are a disorganized group, so anybody can claim to be part of them.

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    If they actually gave a shit about spreading awareness, they’d find a way to get that video on Fox News, OANN, etc

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    So, they are going to hurt innocent people to save the innocent people?

    How exactly does this help us? Why attack infrastructure we need to survive? So many other targets I feel would have better results.

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    Exploit it? The EU thinks they can exploit the chaos? What are they going to do, give us universal health care, a strong safety net, consumer protections, renewable energy and TRAINNNNNNSSSSSSS? (Please, oh please)