Ledditors griefing over internet “censorship” and muh freeze peach principles that were apparently violated when effective, direct measures were used to combat fascism.

I don’t think we should ever celebrate people being deplatformed…If the content is illegal pursue legal means to punish the posters…But let’s say they win, and they get the domain blocked everywhere. They’ll just launch a new domain, just like all the pirate streaming sites do.

Are you implying you shouldn’t try to do anything because the fascists will (deterministically) win? Hence why the people trying to shut them down went straight to the ISPs because they know they can win the ISPs over on moral grounds?

[…] you have to decide if the internet is a human right or not. If it is, it must be for everyone, or it is for no one. As soon as we make exceptions to basic rights, those rights get eroded for everyone. Because people in power will bend the exceptions to political expediency.

Fascists don’t deserve basic rights.

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      And if you’re dealing with some kind of bigot, the best way to make them see the error of their ways is for those people they’re bigoted against have civil conversations with them.

      Do you have any evidence to support this claim?

      Frankly, I don’t care about convincing them. I care about suppressing them. Whenever possible their voice should be taken away and they should always be afraid of expressing their bigotry out loud. They are worthless scum and generally beyond saving, what matters is protecting the people who they endager.

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      No, you let the racists and bigots face the consequences of their actions, including legal ones. If someone wants to say racial slurs, they get arrested. That’s how it works in South Africa. If you say the k word, you can expect legal action to be taken against you. And that’s how it should be. Hate speech has no value and is not “free speech”.

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      Being in favor of free speech means allowing people you hate to talk too. If someone says something that’s factually incorrect, prove them wrong.

      Well we don’t believe that “free speech” is a “basic right”. Now material rights to shelter, food, and productive participation in society are things we consider to be “basic rights”. Being a Fascist is not productive participation in society however, therefore in order to fulfill that basic right, they must be corrected.