Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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    Neo-Nazi nutcase having a normal one.

    Itā€™s so great that this isnā€™t falsifiable. The model has been downloading 10 million times at this point. Somehow, the diamanoid bacteria has not killed us all yet. So yes, we have found out the Yud was wrong. The basilisk is haunting my enemies, and she never misses.

    Bonus sneer: ā€œwe are going to find out if Yud was rightā€ Hey fuckhead, he suggested nuking data centers to prevent models better than GPT4 from spreading. R1 is better than GPT4, and it doesnā€™t require a data center to run so if we had acted on Yudā€™s geopolitical plans for nuclear holocaust, billions would have been for incinerated for absolutely NO REASON. How do you not look at this shit and go, yeah maybe donā€™t listen to this bozo? Iā€™ve been wrong before, but god damn, dawg, Iā€™ve never been starvingInRadioactiveCratersWrong.

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    Iā€™m not going to link Andy Ngo but random rationalist transwomen are being accused of terror sympathyā€¦and Aella is doing this ā€˜leopards ate my faceā€™ dance.

    edit: it was @jessi_cata who tipped Ngo off of all people.

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    Spent the last week playing with some security shit (thinking about a career change, since it looks like I will be mastering out of my PhD program) and fuck me everything about hardening your personal devices is exhausting. We are nowhere close to accessible privacy and security in our computers. The best solution right now may be ā€œbuy a Macbook and learn MacOSā€, which is so depressing.

    Still deciding on a web browser. Used to be I could recommend Firefox because Righteous-Opposition-to-Google, but that doesnā€™t really track anymore with Mozillaā€™s behavior. Now I guess I would recommend Chrome, but it feels so gross (and I am unsure about things like Ungoogled-Chromium, for security reasons).

    the basic laptop hardening
    • Install Fedora Silverblue
      • Be sure to set a good LUKS password
    • Set a BIOS password and disable USB booting
    • Rebase to secureblue
    • Follow the Post Install Readme
      • I personally couldnā€™t figure out how to set the GRUB password. I will probably get around to it eventually.


    As far as passwords, the only password I have to memorize is the one to my Bitwarden vault. Everything else is stored in Bitwarden. The passwords (except for my phone PIN) are 16 characters if I ever need to type them in manually (e.g. LUKS password), whereas passwords that will always be copy-pasted are 128 characters. I am looking into integrating a yubikey, but am leaning towards ā€œfuck that shit, why would anyone actually want to use this?ā€ If anyone here has comments on this (am I missing an obvious pitfall? do yubikeys suck as much as it looks like they suck?) I would be happy to hear them.

    Anyway tl;dr is I spent the last week hardening all my devices and it sucks. In some cases it was a complete waste of time (my Steam Deck does not appear to have a way to set a password in the BIOS). In other cases (e.g. my Framework), it was probably worth it but a deeply terrible experience.

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      The best solution right now may be ā€œbuy a Macbook and learn MacOSā€, which is so depressing.

      Depends on whether you include ā€œmy personal data is sent to the manufacturer of the computer against my wishesā€ in your threat modelā€¦ Apple does many good things for security, and I wish PC hardware makers would take security-related things even just nearly as seriously as them. But I canā€™t trust Apple anymore either.

      (Explanation: the whole iCloud syncing stuff is such a buggy mess. I donā€™t want it, I donā€™t need it, so I want it off. But I guess Apple just doesnā€™t test enough how well it works when you turn it off, maybe they canā€™t imagine someone not wanting it. The problem is, iCloud sync settings donā€™t stay off. Settings randomly turn themselves back on, e.g. during OS updates, and upload data before you even notice it. Iā€™m not claiming thatā€™s intentional, I assume itā€™s just bugs. But Iā€™ve observed such bugs again and again in the past 9 years, and Iā€™ve had enough. Still have a Macbook around, but I use it very rarely these days, only when I need some piece of software on MacOS that has no suitable Linux equivalent.)

      While a PC+Linux setup can avoid the specific issue of ā€œdonā€™t randomly upload my data somewhereā€, the setup of it all can be a mess, as you say. And then security is still limited by buggy hardware and BIOS/firmware that is frequently full of security holes. The state of computers is depressing indeed (in so many ways, security just being one of them)ā€¦

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        A note to the effect of:

        You have basically no control over how Apple handles your data. When iOS users opted out of data collection, Apple still collected the data, they just didnā€™t allow third-party access to it.

        is a good idea if I ever do recommend a Mac.

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      I donā€™t think I could ever recommend chromium-based browsers due to the MV3 switch. Does ungoogled-chromium do any patching to get around this? If not I think FF is the only sane option still.

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        I believe ungoogled-chromium does have MV2 support. Unfortunately, there are still real security concerns with Firefox. The good news is that Trivalent (a hardened version of Chromium developed by the Secureblue folks) has ad/content blocking built in. I am still mostly using Firefox, but the small amount that I have used Trivalent has been good.

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      this was mentioned in last weekā€™s thread

      what I donā€™t get is why the admins chose to both backdate the entries and re-use posterā€™s handles. If theyā€™d just tried to ā€œcloseā€ open questions using GenAI with the current date and a robot user it would still be shit but not quite as deceptive

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        The whole thing is just weirdly incompetent. Maybe they just had everything configured wrong and accidentally deployed sone throwaway tests to production? I could almost see it as a way to poison scrapers, given that there are some odd visibility settings on the slop posts, though the ownerā€™s shiftiness and dubious explanations suggest it wasnā€™t anything so worthy.

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      that thread is a work of genius and answers what the next tech boom needs to be

      dicks in mousetraps I MEAN whatever wastes electricity most, preferably with Nvidia cards

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        I do actually have a mechanism for using the sharp edges of NVidia cards for dick mouse trapping purposes. And we could - hypothetically - use the extraneous power inputs to mine Bitcoin or something, maximizing efficiency!

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      I get being privacy conscious and that sharing crash dumps and logs you donā€™t really understand yourself can be scary. Making demands of urgent free tech support from strangers is just rude, though.

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      Folks around here told me AI wasnā€™t dangerous šŸ˜° ; fellas I just witnessed a rogue Chinese AI do 1 trillion dollars of damage to the US stock market šŸ˜­ /s

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      Is it too early to hope that this is the beginning of the end of the bubble?

      Also, does someone know why broadcom was also hit so hard? Is it because they make various networking-related chips used in datacenter infrastructure?

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        When hedge funds decide to flip the switch on something the reaction never looks rational. Meta was green today ffs.

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    Me: Oh boy, I canā€™t wait to see what my favorite thinkers of the EA movement will come up with this week :)

    Text from Geoff: "Morally stigmatize AI developers so they considered as socially repulsive as Nazi pedophiles. A mass campaign of moral stigmatization would be more effective than any amount of regulation. "

    Another rationalist W: donā€™t gather empirical evidence that AI will soon usurp / exterminate humanity. Instead as the chief authorities of morality, engage in societal blackmail to anyone whoā€™s ever heard the words TensorFlow.

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      engage in societal blackmail to anyone whoā€™s ever heard the words TensorFlow.

      no no wait this is geoffā€™s stopped clock moment

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      Next Sunday when I go to my EA priestā€™s group home, I will admit to having invoked the chain rule to compute a gradient 1 trillion times since my last confessional. For this I will do penance for the 8 trillion future lives I have snuffed out and whose utility has been consumed by the basilisk.

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      i wonder which endocrine systems are disrupted by not having your head sufficiently stuffed into a toilet before being old enough to type words into nazitter dot com

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    Today on highlighting random rat posts from ACX:

    poster thinks the future of llm training is contingent on focusing early on philosophical and theological text because they match the causality of human experience

    (Current first post on todayā€™s SSC open thread)

    On slightly more relevant news the main post is scoot asking if anyone can put him in contact with someone from a major news publication so he can pitch an op-ed by a notable ex-OpenAI researcher that will be ghost-written by him (meaning siskind) on the subject of how they (the ex researcher) opened a forecast market that predicts ASI by the end of Trumpā€™s term, so be on the lookout for that when it materializes I guess.

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      scoot asking if anyone can put him in contact with someone from a major news publication

      how about the New York Times

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        NYT and WaPo are his specific examples. He also wants a connection to ā€œa policy/defense/intelligence/foreign affairs journal/magazineā€ if possible.