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  • Okay apparently it was my turn to subject myself to this nonsense and itā€™s pretty obvious what the problem is. As far as citations go Iā€™m gonna go ahead and fall back to ā€œwatching how a human toddler learns about the worldā€ which is something Iā€™m sure most AI researchers probably donā€™t have experience with as it does usually involve interacting with a woman at some point.

    In the real examples that he provides, the system isnā€™t ā€œpicking up the wrong goalā€ as an agent somehow. Instead itā€™s seeing the wrong pattern. Learning ā€œI get a pat on the head for getting to the bottom-right-est corner of the levelā€ rather than ā€œI get a pat on the head when I touch the coin.ā€ These are totally equivalent in the training data, so itā€™s not surprising that itā€™s going with the simpler option that doesnā€™t require recognizing ā€œcoinā€ as anything relevant. This failure state is entirely within the realms of existing machine learning techniques and models because identifying patterns in large amounts of data is the kind of thing theyā€™re known to be very good at. But there isnā€™t any kind of instrumental goal establishing happening here as much as the system is recognizing that it should reproduce games where it moves in certain ways.

    This is also a failure state thatā€™s common in humans learning about the world, so itā€™s easy to see why people think weā€™re on the right track. We had to teach my little on the difference between ā€œDaddy doesnā€™t like musicā€ and ā€œDaddy doesnā€™t like having the Blaze and the Monster Machines theme song shout/sang at him when Iā€™m trying to talk to Mama.ā€ The difference comes in the fact that even as a toddler thereā€™s enough metacognition and actual thought going on that you can help guide them in the right direction, rather than needing to feed them a whole mess of additional examples and rebuild the underlying pattern.

    And the extension of this kind of pattern misrecognition into sci-fi end of the world nonsense is still unwarranted anthropomorphism. Like, weā€™re trying to use evidence that itā€™s too dumb to learn the rules of a video game as evidence that itā€™s going to start engaging in advanced metacognition and secrecy.



  • I mean a lot of the services that companies are using are cloud-hosted, meaning that especially if you have branch offices or a lot of remote workers a normal firewall in the datacenter introduces an unnecessary bottleneck. Putting the logical edge of your organizationā€™s network in the cloud too makes sense from a performance perspective in that case, and then turning the actual firewalls into SaaS seems much less absurd.


  • Brief overlapping thoughts between parenting and AI nonsense, presented without editing.

    The second L in LLM remains the inescapable heart of the problem. Even if you accept that the kind of ā€œthinkingā€ (modeling based on input and prediction of expected next input) that AI does is closely analogous to how people think, anyone who has had a kid should be able to understand the massive volume of information they take in.

    Compare the information density of English text with the available data on the world you get from sight, hearing, taste, smell, touch, proprioception, and however many other senses you want to include. Then consider that language is inherently an imperfect tool used to communicate our perceptions of reality, and doesnā€™t actually include data on reality itself. The human child is getting a fire hose of unfiltered reality, while the in-training LLM is getting a trickle of what the writers and labellers of their training data perceive and write about. But before we get just feeding a live camera and audio feed, haptic sensors, chemical tests, and whatever else into a machine learning model and seeing if it spits out a person, consider how ambiguous and impractical labelling all that data would be. At the very least I imagine the costs of doing so are actually going to work out to be less efficient than raising an actual human being and training them in the desired tasks.

    Human children are also not immune to ā€œhallucinationsā€ in the form of spurious correlations. I would wager every toddler has at least a couple of attempts at cargo cult behavior or inexplicable fears as they try to reason a way to interact with the world based off of very little actual information about it. This feeds into both versions of the above problem, since the difference between reality and lies about reality cannot be meaningfully discerned from text alone and the limited amount of information being processed means any correction is inevitably going to be slower than explaining to a child that finding a ā€œHappy Birthdayā€ sticker doesnā€™t immediately make it their (or anyone elseā€™s) birthday.

    Human children are able to get human parents to put up with their nonsense ny taking advantage of being unbearably sweet and adorable. Maybe the abundance of horny chatbots and softcore porn generators is a warped fun house mirror version of the same concept. I will allow you to fill in the joke about Silicon Valley libertarians yourself.

    IDK. Felt thoughtful, might try to organize it on morewrite later.


  • This is what the AI-is-useful-actually argument obscures. There are parts of this technology that can do legitimately cool things! Machine learning identifying patterns in massive volumes of data that would otherwise be impractical to analyze is really cool and has a lot of utility. But once you start calling it ā€œMedical AIā€ then people start acting like they can turn their human brains off. ā€œAIā€ as a marketing term is not a tool that can help human experts focus their own analysis or enable otherwise-unfeasible kinds of statistical analysis. Will Smith didnā€™t get into gunfights with humanoid iMacs because they were identifying types of bread too effectively. The whole point is that itā€™s supposed to completely replace the role of a person in the relevant situations.



  • Iā€™m glad Iā€™m not the only one who picked up on that turn. The implication that what we need is an actual Bismark instead of a wannabe like we keep getting makes sense (I too would prefer if the levers of power were wielded by someone halfway competent who listens to and cares about people around them) but there are also some pretty strong reasons why we went from Bismark and Lincoln to Merkel and Trump, and also some pretty strong reasons why the road there led through Hitler and Wilson.

    Along with my comments elsewhere about how the dunce believes their area of hypothetical expertise to be some kind of arcane gift revealed to the worthy, I feel like I should clarify that not only do the current top of dolts not have it but that there is no secret wisdom beyond the ken of normal men. That is a lie told by the powerful to stop you fro tom questioning their position; itā€™s the ā€œbecause Iā€™m your Dad and I said soā€ for adults. Learning things is hard and hard means expensive, so people with wealth and power have more opportunities to study things, but that lack of opportunity is not the same as lacking the ability to understand things and to contribute to a truly democratic process.




  • First and foremost, the dunce is incapable of valuing knowledge that they donā€™t personally understand or agree with. If they donā€™t know something, then that thing clearly isnā€™t worth knowing.

    There is a corollary to this that Iā€™ve seen as well, and it dovetails with the way so many of these guys get obsessed with IQ. Anything they canā€™t immediately understand must be nonsense not worth knowing. Anything they can understand (or think they understand) that you donā€™t is clearly an arcane secret of the universe that they can only grasp because of their innate superiority. I think that this is the combination that explains how so many of these dunces believe themselves to be the ubermensch who must exercise authoritarian power over the rest of us for the good of everyone.

    See also the commenter(s) on this thread who insist that their lack of reading comprehension is evidence that theyā€™re clearly correct and are in no way part of the problem.


  • A lot of the spamming at the SC2 tournament level is about staying warmed up so that when you get into a micro-intensive battle later on where all of those actions might count (splitting your marines to protect from AoE while target-firing the suicide bombing banelings, for example) you can do it. Doesnā€™t make it look less ridiculous, especially in the first couple of minutes before the commentary has anything to really talk about so they try to act like stealing 5 minerals at that stage could somehow decide the game. But there is a slightly more reasonable logic to it than just speed running an RSI to look cool.

    The original StarCraft also offers a lot of opportunities to use your ā€œextraā€ APM to optimize around the godawful AI pathing and other ā€œquirksā€ of the engine. Itā€™s not as bad as, say, DotA in terms of ā€œthis was a limitation of the original engine that is now a major cornerstone of playing the game well and if you complain about it youā€™re just badā€ but itā€™s definitely up there. As the game goes on youā€™ll usually see players start getting slightly more fast and loose with, say, optimizing the mining at their new base because at that point in the game splitting your focus that much is more detrimental even if you can move that fast.

    I definitely ended up in the occasional spectator and campaign player for all that, though. Especially now that Iā€™m starting to have creaky old man wrists of my own.


  • Unfortunately it doesnā€™t look like he was properly banned, just booted out of his session for having suspiciously-high APM. Now, the true eSports nerds among us will already know that high APM is a staple of high-level play in some games but is also an easy way to check for certain types of cheaters. Because of the association with skill in e.g. StarCraft it also became a very easily gamable metric if for some reason you wanted to feel like you knew what you were doing or show off for your friends and strangers online. For example, certain key bindings let you perform some actions as fast as your keyboardā€™s refresh rate allows by holding down a key or abusing the scroll wheel on your mouse. This can send your measured APM through the roof for a time. My gut says this is what Elon was doing that triggered the anticheat program, rather than any amount of actively gaming or actually cheating.

    Please note that the hard-won knowledge of my misspent youth has no bearing on how pathetic it is for the richest man in the world to be doing the same kind of begging for clout that I did at 14, especially since Iā€™m pretty 14-year-old me was frankly better at it.



  • I got bounced back to Casey Newtonā€™s recent master class in critihype and found something new that stuck in my craw.

    Occasionally, they get an entire sector wrong ā€” see the excess of enthusiasm for cleantech in the 2000s, or the crypto blow-up of the past few years.

    In aggregate, though, and on average, theyā€™re usually right.

    First off, please note that this describes two of the most recent tech bubbles and doesnā€™t provide any recent counterexamples of a seemingly-ridicilous new gimmick that actually stuck around past the initial bubble. Effectively this says: yes, theyā€™re 0 for 2 in the last 20 years, but this time they canā€™t all be wrong!

    But more than that I think thereā€™s an underlying error in acting like ā€œthe tech sectorā€ is a healthy and competitive market in the first place. They may not directly coordinate or operate in absolute lockstep, but the main drivers of crypto, generative AI, metaverse, SaaS, and so much of the current enshittifying and dead-ending tech industry comes back to a relatively small circle of people who all live in the same moneyed Silicon Valley cultural and informational bubble. We can even identify the ideological underpinnings of these decisions in the TESCREAL bundle, effective altruism and accelerationism, and ā€œdark enlightenmentā€ tech-fascism. This is not a ruthlessly competitive market that ferrets out weakness. Itā€™s more like a shared cult of personality that selects for whatever makes the guys in top feel good about themselves. The question isnā€™t ā€œhow can all these different groups be wrong without someone undercutting themā€, itā€™s ā€œhow can these few dozen guys who share an ideology and information bubble keep making the exact same mistakes as one anotherā€ and the answer should be to question why anyone expects anything else!


  • To his frequent ā€œno, people really are this stupidā€ refrain I would like to add an argument. If it didnā€™t work on enough people to be profitable, the business model wouldnā€™t have persisted and been replicated and refined into the dominant model of online advertising, and/or online advertising would never have been able to become the primary monetization framework for online content. Like, itā€™s fucked how much of the existing Internet is effectively subsidized by exploiting people who donā€™t know better, and I donā€™t think people are really okay with this as much as the system is sufficiently obfuscated that we donā€™t have to notice or think about it.