Canā€™t take being misgendered and harassed. He/himed. People starting arguments over their own intolerance and blaming the arguments on drag. Banned from trans communities on blahaj and then unbanned but the unban didnā€™t federate, so donā€™t know where to post this. In so much pain. Hopes this post wonā€™t lead to more pain. What do you do when nobody will believe youā€™re hurt, and every time you scream out in pain, youā€™re accused of having an agenda? What kind of agenda is just not wanting to be harassed anymore? They think theyā€™re winning when they fill a thread with drama and then complain about all the drama. They think theyā€™re doing something right? How do you tell people youā€™re honestly suffering and have them believe you?

self-harm thoughts

Do you just cut your skin open and show it to them? Is that how you convince them that theyā€™re causing you pain? HOW? How the fuck do you convince them that your pain isnā€™t a trick?

They tell you to block them while they misgender you and tell the whole world youā€™re the devil. ā€œJust ignore everything Iā€™m doing to hurt you and youā€™ll be okayā€. It doesnā€™t make any sense but they think itā€™s right. They could choose to disengage this very minute but they donā€™t. They think harassment and misgendering is a crusade of justice. That hurting people is a moral good, but oh no, donā€™t you dare claim youā€™re hurt when I hurt you.

How the fuck do you post your tears on lemmy?

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    Drag has a therapist and sheā€™s wonderful and drag doesnā€™t even have to pay to see her. She helps a lot every time drag sees her. But she canā€™t make harassment or misgendering go away. She can help drag deal with it. She can help drag not self harm about it. But she canā€™t take the pain away. A therapist can heal you, but they canā€™t protect you. Thatā€™s two different things. Thatā€™s like expecting a surgeon to make it so you didnā€™t get stabbed with a knife in an alley. Youā€™re still stabbed and still in pain. A surgeon just makes it so you wonā€™t die from the stabbing. A therapist is the same. Dragā€™s therapist is making sure drag doesnā€™t die from the harassment, not erasing it. But drag would really like to be protected from it so that drag doesnā€™t have to go through all this pain.

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      My comment advice was just what has personal helped me deal with SH ideations. I donā€™t know a way to stop bigotry. It hurts to be invalidated and othered. I recommend building a stronger emotional buffer, do things that bring you satisfaction. I wouldnā€™t be able to deal with existing if it wasnā€™t for my hobbies. I have terrible self-esteem, so i find that doing things that make me feel intelligent, or self-confident, decrease the risk of getting super drained and SHing.

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        Drag has a frustration, even here in this community, with how problems get medicalised. A person is misgendered and harassed, and everyone says ā€œget helpā€, and they clearly mean ā€œsee a doctorā€, as if doctors are the only kind of help that exists. Everyone wants to talk about therapy and counselling.

        Itā€™sā€¦ gross. If someone is attacked, the problem isnā€™t their reaction. Being a victim of online violence isnā€™t a disease. It doesnā€™t mean something is wrong with the victim. The problem is with the one doing the harassing. But all anyone can talk about is what the victim should do. Not what the attacker should do. Thatā€™s not right.

        Drag told dragā€™s friends about this thread and they didnā€™t like it any more than drag did.

        Recommending medical help is good and does have its place. But drag hates when itā€™s used as a thought-terminating cliche. ā€œWe told the hurt person to go see a doctor. Welp, thatā€™s everything that can be done. This conversation is over now. The therapist will magic away all the pain and we can ignore it now.ā€

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          My initial comment was directly responding to you asking for help. Since I donā€™t know any better way to help you I went to advice. My intention was share to the basics of what helped me regain some stability in my life, whereas I think I came across as cold/fake. I wasnā€™t trying to minimize or suggest that you are supposed to be ā€œfixedā€, I wanted to make sure I covered all bases for what I thought were impactful when experiencing anxiety/depression/abuse. I mentioned hobbies, friends, social safety net, online or local resources, groups, and professional.

          I was working under the assumption that you had no resources because I thought it would be the best way to respond quickly without waiting to ask questions like ā€œdo you have a therapist?ā€ I get that it is annoying to get the similar redundant advice. I didnā€™t read the full comment section because my anxiety started spiking. I am sorry that I contributed to that.

          The way I deal with abuse is to harden my shell and make sure to reduce any chances of getting hurt. Avoidance to the max. I sucks to feel hurt, but it is impossible to avoid it all.

          My words were sincerely my attempt at advice. What drove me to respond in the first place was reading the spoilered-out intrusive thought. I literally went, ā€œhow am I reading my own intrusive thought from someone else entirely?ā€

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            Sorry for stressing you out. Drag didnā€™t mean to imply you were a bad example of that. Drag was pretty triggered after the initial ā€œget helpā€ comment. That one wasnā€™t helpful to anyone, while drag thinks thereā€™s a good chance your comment will be seen by someone who does need to see it. Drag chose to respond to that initial comment broadly and refuse to acknowledge the implied specificity, but drag supposes most people donā€™t take words literally enough to see what drag was doing. All they could see was the subtext that drag was choosing to ignore.

            Feels nice to be told you feel the same way about people in online spaces perceiving your pain. Itā€™s awful. Call someone a troll, and you can pretend their every gasp and sob is manipulation. You donā€™t have to care about the consequences of your actions. Causing pain is good. Fuck that thinking. Itā€™s one of the reasons why drag doesnā€™t really believe in trolls. Dragā€™s seen the belief in trolls turn people into monsters. Drag will leave dragā€™s empathy on, even if it gets drag hurt, because hurting an innocent person is worse.