Ain’t no one delivering to me out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere anyway.
We have someone in one of the neighbouring villages that delivers some burgers and local stuff (e.g. aligot) if you order before 6pm.
I used to run a pizza place. Bad snow was some of the worst. Half the staff would call off and we’d have double the orders. We were in a mostly flat city on a grid, so we would cut delivery down to just the grid. People would be furious to be denied delivery pizza. “I just drove up the hill an hour ago! It’s fine!” Yeah in your truck. My delivery driver is in a beat up twenty year old four cylinder.
One day I tried to take our car to work and immediately put it in a ditch. I called my boss while I walked to work. I said we can’t do delivery today this is too extreme. He said oh just do the grid like usual. The only driver who showed up that morning wrecked his car on his third delivery. We always told them, take the topper off your car and hide it in your trunk. If insurance finds out you were doing commercial business they will not pay.
Remember, if you drive your own car for work, and they aren’t insuring it, you are double subsidising your employer.
Technically it’s not the power of the engine but the AWD/4WD. You can floor your engine and just skid on ice. Subarus are pretty cheap 4 cyl boxer engines known for great handling in snow with some clever differential systems they have (viscuous coupling diffs, active torque split, etc.) But yeah a Ford Focus or Honda Civic or whatever with FWD only will leave you stranded. Not your main point I know.
One time it snowed a foot or two in Seattle. I had a set of studded tires on a little Toyota Tercel and I swear I was the only fucker driving around. Uphill, downhill, cruising down the lumpy hard-packed freeway, didn’t have any problems. Besides, if you get stuck in a Tercel you can just lift the whole rear of the car out of the snow with a second person. I really miss that car.
I looked that car up a few days ago - know why? It was Jesse’s car in Breaking Bad.
AWD might help you avoid getting stuck, but it does nothing to avoid getting in an accident. A cheap 4 cyl FWD with chains or winter tires would do better than a Subaru with crappy tires in icy weather.
It won’t help you skidding out on the highway, but there are a few situations where you start slipping where they’ll actually catch it.
Totally incorrect for both posts. A geo with winter tires is better in the snow than a truck on 40 inch mud tires. Winter tires feel like turning on the cheat codes when it’s slick. They have like 10 times the grip of good all seasons below freezing.
I drive on unmaintained roads a lot in the winter. The hakkapeliittas on my truck let me drive in 2wd until the snow is a foot deep.
That is also a big help, the best thing you can do is increase what’s basically the coefficient of friction.
Yep. Winter tires stay soft at lower temperatures increasing static and dynamic frictions in winter conditions.
There is a reason why the Italian mountain police uses the Fiat Panda (other than it being an Italian car)
That fucker will go ANYWHERE
If you’re into cars for curiosity’s sake, it’s a fun deep dive to look into the cars used in Russia, including the USSR-era ones. Harsh winter conditions, huge backcountry. Some of the government issue ones, uh, GAZ-69, UAZ-469, GAZ-66. I bet people have done modern engine swaps with the chassis on those. One of the crazier things is in the colder regions (e.g. Yakutia) engine cooling isn’t an issue, rather they have to insulate the engine so that it’ll be warm enough to start.
I just shake my head at people that think if you’re spinning out on the ice, just press the throttle harder. Fucking idiots.
With that said, a beater with snow tires and chains on the trunk (and a driver that knows how to put them on before they are needed) will do better than a Subaru with all season tires.
Source: Subaru forums, even a RWD like a BRZ/FRS with snow tires can be safe if driven with the car’s limitations in mind.
Man where do you live that an inch of snow is enough to call off going out?
And how much is rent?
Jamaica, if there’s an inch of snow here, the chances are there will never be work again.
A few weeks ago Georgia (the state) got an inch and a half of snow and the whole state shut down for two days. It’s for the best honestly no one has snow tires or snow driving experience, and very few places store salt for the roads. It used to only snow every couple years and that’s turned into about 1 in 5 now so it’s best to just shut down for a bit tbh.
Gonna likely be Houston about this time tomorrow. Good luck and godspeed to whoever braves the roads.
It irks me when people order delivery when the roads are unsafe - no one should have to put their life on the line like that. I know some people rely on it, though. The snow has been terrible here for days and Meals on Wheels has been canceled so I cooked a big pot roast today to share with elderly neighbors. We’ve all gotta look out for eachother.
I mean, it’s still optional, per driver. Once it snowed so much my little sedan was stuck at work. Tried hard to dig/push it out with no luck. Ordered a ride share even though it was snowing, icy, and late at night. Driver was genuinely happy for the work. There were obviously less of them on the road, so he had his pick of rides and I’m sure got bonuses for them. Ironically, he showed up in another small sedan (but with chains and 4-wheel drive)…
I mean theres nothing that unsafe about the roads in the picture. Thats like regular for a lot of places and people don’t just stop living. I worked as a delivery driver and had to drive in way worse conditions, whats shown wouldnt even have registered as a hazard at all.
It’s safe when infrastructure exists, people used to snow, and everyone has winter tires.
This. The entire state of Texas shut down for an entire week, and people literally died in their homes over 2 inches of snow in 2021. 2 fucking inches.
If your local area doesn’t have the infrastructure in place to support winter weather conditions, any snowfall at all may as well be a 4 ft blizzard.
We did do that once as bored teenagers on an off day back in maybe 2006. Though the pizza shop let us know it was going to take about two hours, which we were totally cool with, and tipped the driver like 20 bucks (on top of a $15 order) because we knew it was probably hell getting there.
Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do, I get that. But if you’re gonna be doing that, please tip your drivers very generously and give them plenty of time and don’t be an asshole to them :)
I don’t see how that’s the customer’s responsibility. The order should be rejected by door dash if they can’t safely deliver.
There’s always someone else we can blame. Door Dash execs can just say if they don’t deliver then one of their competitors will. Everyone’s being shitty and it’s no one’s fault.
If youre driving for doordash you already aren’t in a good financial situation. If they tip large (keep in mind on doordash a good tip is anything above $5 because tips on doordash are fucking garbage) youre going to be incentivized to take it to feed your family another day.
Source: I was a DD driver for 2 years and it sucked shit.
I mean, the delivery people need to get paid, right?
That’s kind of the cruelty of capitalism. You can coerce people do unsafe or unpleasant things, but it gets framed as a favour because hey they’re getting paid.
Whereas if the person you were paying was truly comfortable and didn’t need money for survival, there is a chance that they would forego working on that kind of night.
I’ll say no if I need to, there are always other jobs. They’re renting your time not your life, you can tell them no.
There are other jobs, but the market isn’t homogeneous or liquid. The jobs available to a specific person may not pay enough, be stable enough, may not be close enough, or may not like the person for bullshit reasons or expect some specific qualifications.
I can just get another job, because I know all these things are similar for me at other businesses in my industry.
That’s a nice thought but it’s sadly not how reality works for many people who are living paycheck to paycheck.
A delivery driver is already towards the bottom of the job ladder
Not many can say “I can be without work for a week or two while I look for a better/safer job”
Can they say no? Yes, can they really say no? Probably not
Well they’d be in just as bad a situation if no one ordered at all for a week. Theyre without income either way. I honestly think its better for doordash and ubereats drivers if people still order in poor weather. Pizza places on the other hand where the driver may at least be making some sort of flat rate, they may just prefer to sit there all shift with no orders.
They would only be in a bad situation because minimum wage is low and they will be missing tips.
A pizza driver in the US is guaranteed at least minimum wage while they are on the clock.
To my knowledge, Uber style delivery services are not going to fire you for not working a night.
The typical pizza place has managers that will force workers to work. If you are forced to work and someone calls in a pizza, you are forced to deliver.
Im sure there are people out there that have 4x4s and enjoy the extra tips in the hazardous conditions.
But you could also be risking some poor soul life that’s being forced to deliver in their Honda civic.
Those people can’t say no to their managers in fear of being fired. It’s what the whole comment was about. They can’t quit, fired could be worse.
Thats literally what i said, if youre gonna order, order from ubereats or doordash where they can refuse to take orders, so if someone is working they must be really desperate and unable to go without the income. At least theyre making the choice for themselves. Dont order from a pizza place because although they might still have to work, they’ll at least be making a wage if theres no orders and just get to kick back. I personally barely order delivery anyway.
Those dollars won’t mean much when they’re being buried. I lost an employee many years ago when the company insisted we go into the office during an ice storm and he swirved into a tractor trailer. It was an entirely senseless and avoidable death.
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No tip though, cause I don’t support the tipping culture.
I just got this beauty of an alert.
That’s -34.44 Celsius for those not in the USA.
Sounds like a perfect time to have a minimum-wage worker bring you food!
(jokes aside I hope you’re ok)
Don’t worry, they’re not paid minimum wage. They’re contractors so there’s no such thing. 😊
Oh phew.
But because they’re contractors, they’re not required to drive in that weather either.
Nobody is required to work. You can also starve.
Homes in this area are built for it. The big risk is a power outage, and even then the basement should stay above freezing for at least a day.
30 below expected? What was expected?
30 below is expected.
“30 below [zero]” expected
Funnily enough meteorologists have all sorts of short phrases like that that I find equally confusing, it’s like half broken English but it works
0 degrees, clearly.
WHAT
IT’S GOING TO BE COLD OUTSIDE, BROTHER. MAKE SURE YOU DRESS APPROPRIATELY, THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS BAD WEATHER, JUST BAD CLOTHING.
THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS BAD WEATHER, JUST BAD CLOTHING.
Except for high wet bulb temperatures. That shit will kill you even if you’re naked.
Your father was a naked high wet bulb!
That’s what my mom liked about him
Waitaminute. That’s what my mom liked about him
b…brother?
Dress: Appropriate
Generator: Fueled
Hog: Cranked
IF IT GETS TOO COLD YOU MIGHT CRACK YOUR HOG WHEN YOU GO TO CRANK IT. NOBODY WANTS THAT!
This guy knows.
German detected.
New Englanders say that too! We also respond to others concerned about our wellbeing in the rain: “I’m not made of sugar,” though we have an answer that Germans don’t say: “but you are pretty sweet.”
TIL.
I guess Germans don’t have that answer because for a German “No scolding is praise enough.”
I’m an American immigrant married to a German, and it definitely took us a bit to adjust to each other’s feedback styles- he thought every dish he made was my new absolute favorite, and I thought he disliked my cooking at first, because I’d say something was delicious and he’d say it was fine, lol.
But I’ll take it, because this way Germans think I’m quick witted when I respond with that.
💯
I’d be curious if I could find enough clothes to be able to withstand these temperatures for half an hour. The coldest I’ve ever experienced was −20°C some 15 years ago.
Easily. They cost a small fortune unfortunately. Look up Canada Goose parkas. Or Outdoor Survival Canada.
There are research stations in Antarctica where it has like -60°C or lower on a typical day. There’s an interesting post on stackexchange referencing the US Antarctica programme on about what clothing for these conditions should look like.
It is wind chill not actual temperature. Still cold cold cold but not as bad as it sounds in terms of your internal organs freezing or whatever.
I don’t see the point, since I would give up based on the perceived temperature way before any damage from the real temperature would occur.
Long sleeves and long underwear/leggings, two pairs of socks, flannel-lined jeans if you have them, sweatpants and jeans on top if not, flannel or similar overshirt, scarf(!), sweater/sweatshirt, winter coat (or 2 additional sweaters/sweatshirts and a raincoat or other large windbreaker), boots, gloves, mittens, and hat.
You won’t die, especially if you move around. I’ve had to take the coat off while shoveling in those temperatures, though my feet and hands were unhappy after a while. Definitely have a cup of hot liquid when you get back inside though.
You get used to it. Humans have an amazing ability to adapt.
Correct. Actual is expected to be -23° Farenheit.
That’s not that cold? Almost any winter gear you buy in Canada will be rated for atleast -30c. It gets that temperature normally without windchill regularly.
In fact, it was just -20c without windchill the last 2 days here.
You might be used to it and prepared for it, but it’s still bloody cold!
It isn’t the amount but the quality of the clothes. My wife and I were skiing yesterday at -8°f without issue. So that’s temp plus actual wind chill and windspeed while riding.
Time to move city lmao
In 20 years, it’ll be a temperate climate.
The Celsius temps should not be the addition at the bottom, considering the US is the only place in the world using the archaic and useless Fahrenheit. Celsius should be the norm with an addendum of Fahrenheit.
Yay for American exceptionalism once again. Dumbfucks.
This comment is completely irrational. The fahrenheit temperature is in a screenshot of a text message that was sent in the US. The only temperature in the message you replied to that isn’t in the screenshot is in Celsius. How is that “American exceptionalism”?
It really boggles the mind as to what they expected the poster to present. Did they want him to edit the screenshot to say Celsius and then clarify what he edited out?
Yes. And if your country actually used a sensical measurement you wouldn’t need to do that.
It is about American exceptionalism.
I can’t tell if this is satire. So arrogant and superior, and so, so stupid at the same time.
That’s…. Not that cold? It gets normally down to -32c/f here, and that’s without windchill.
Bud that’s frostbite in 30 minutes territory, that’s cold.
When you experience it for 6 months every year, you actually get used it and it’s not that cold. It’s entirely livable. People from fair weather states are funny.
Of course when you live in +30c for 12 months even -10c will feel unbearable. Where that’s t-shirt weather for other people.
You also won’t get frostbite when your skin covered, wear a mask, jacket, pants, I used to work in it for 8 hours a day. You make it seem like it’ll kill you lmfao.
Yeah I mean it’s bearable weather with the right gear, of course. But saying 30 below is “not that cold” is just you being that guy.
You just described any weather, even +20c! Wear a jacket or the wrong clothes and it’s unbearable as well.
30 below is beautiful weather to head to the mountains and go boarding.
I’ve seen an ad on German television (yea, yea, I still do watch it) whose whole point was that Saturday should be a [Edit:
free dayday off], but it’s marred by having to do grocery shopping. The climax of that ad was a woman shouting “Let’s take back our Saturdays” Braveheart style.The ad is for a service that has people shopping for you. I wonder when their busiest day will be…
I’m a bartender. I work when other people are off work. I thrive on their days off. I have days off too, just not yours. Not everybody wants to work a 9-5.
My years of hospitality were pretty darn convenient. Sure, it was hard scheduling things with people working 9-5, but errands were always a breeze. Virtually no lines anywhere, everything open, negligible traffic. I could swing by the DMV on a whim.
When I lived in New York I was flabbergasted any time I had to ride the subway during morning rush hour. I could never live with having to do that every day.
a free day
Like… A day when everything’s free? The logic isn’t logicing here.
Sorry, my German was leaking.
Have you tried using duct tape? I heard it stops leaks.
Not even flex tape can stop the germans
Nope. Only heard of Panzer Tape.
I made an order for the next morning… and the first heavy snowstorm hit overnight. I wrote it off as well im not getting that order.
But the crazy driver actually delivered. I felt so bad for them! No tip though, cause I don’t support the tipping culture.
Yeah, I got some pizza delivered during yesterday’s snowstorm. Fuck tipping culture, my tip for the driver was to reccomend they get a better job that doesn’t have them driving in a blizzard.
I think you in misunderstood my comment.
I understood, I just don’t believe in /s’ when shitposting
tipping culture is bad but youre still in the wrong for not tipping… thats dastardly
The last part was joke. I was just repeating the other persons joke comment.
Seems to be a meme based on the vibe, but it’d be the first time I’m seeing too.
Agreed, if that’s not a meme then they are evil. it’s one thing to not tip on a normal order, but to not tip after they risked their life delivering it is just unessicarily evil
Seriously are there people out there who don’t OVER tip when the weather is horrible but they still get their delivery?
I am 100% against “tipping culture” (pay your employees, you fucks), and I’d still tip excessively in a situation like this.
If you hate tipping so much why don’t you move to Venezuela?
/s just in case
My delivery app already charges extra when the weather is bad. Mandatory tip = no extra tip
As long as the driver actually gets the money.
Which I doubt
That’s how it should be!
most people dont change how they tip based on weather. I used to Drive for dd
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Running a winter-hardened rally car isn’t cheap. They better get hazard pay.
Most of the time its +$1 per delivery. Not because its hazardous, but because they dont have enough drivers.
