• Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Yeah no your war on this community is pointless. They are allowed to exist just like you and if you don’t like it you can hide them and move on.

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    Well, this is one where the subject is kinda beat to death.

    Blanket down voting is a shitty thing, and it is completely appropriate for mods to ban people that do it

    However, they should have a definitive criteria for what thresholds they use to determine what is and isn’t blanket down voting.

    Myself, I down vote stuff on there that’s either off topic for the place, or stuff that’s utter bullshit, and/or stuff that’s YouTube drek because the YouTube drek is never sourced well. A link to a video is way too likely to be bullshit when it comes down to fad, niche, or weird diets.

    Which means I end up down voting more than I do otherwise.

    And, there’s very rarely any posts worth engaging in.

    By the apparent metrics, I should have already been banned. Which means that the apparent metrics don’t match what’s being used in practice.

    However! I think that’s less PTB and more “clueless” mods that don’t have experience running a controversial community. The more controversial the subject is, the clearer you have to be with how, when, and why you’re going to take action, unless you want to end up on a community like this one, lol.

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      and/or stuff that’s YouTube drek because the YouTube drek is never sourced well.

      I’ve noticed this pattern, I think its kinda rude, I take time to find a really good topical video on onboarding to carnivore and your downvoting it because its a youtube video, regardless of the quality of the video - in this case it was a board certified obesity doctor talking about starting carnivore? Did you even open the video before downvoting?

      Conversational videos have value for people who are interested in the community theme

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    Coming to the community, especially a small one, just to downvote without posting a single post/comment is antisocial as fuck so stuck your rage where the sun don’t shine, sweetie.

    Your reference to “respectful dissent” shows you don’t understand what the rule means - it is to encourage participation, ie posting and commenting. Blanket downvoting has exactly opposite effect discouraging participation.

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    Gonna have to say YDI here sorry. Blanket downvoting is a bannable offense in any community because it denegrates the platform as a whole.

    I also want to apologize to the carnivore community for my previous assumptions about the diet as a whole. I had unquestioningly believed a post that labeled the diet as unconditionally dangerous, and I commented encouraging people who had that opinion to report the community. After doing more research, I realize I was mistaken.

    While there are risks associated with the carnivore diet, and it certainly shouldn’t be marketed as “for everyone,” when approached mindfully and appropriately, the diet is not necessarily dangerous.

    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
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      Gonna have to say YDI here sorry. Blanket downvoting is a bannable offense in any community because it denegrates the platform as a whole.

      Ironically, I’m not even banned myself, as I participated (and generally don’t downvote that much anyway, whatever the community)

      What isn’t really clear here is that users seems to have been banned for one single downvote? Seems a bit extreme.

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        Nope.

        Only users not participating and either blanket downvoting multiple posts or downvoting specifically this ONE moderator’s post banning downvoting without participation were banned.

        You are actually the best example here - you have participated and are not banned.

        Coming to the community just to downvote is toxic. Since banned users don’t contribute, they have no interest being there.

        You don’t like a certain community - block and move on with your life. Don’t behave like a dick.

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        i’m aware; i said YDI because thats the colloqualism in the sidebar. “you” means the modded users here :P

        if you have evidence that it was truly a single downvote ban i would post that because that’s a real issue of algorithm manipulation — but way different from blanket downvoting bans.

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    Yeah, don’t go to communities you dislike and downvote everything. It’s a dick move. Just block them.

    The initial removal was about rule 3 - no rage baiting. That rule has been removed.

    Well, that explains why the posts were restored? Mods are allowed to change rules, right?

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        Not really, just curious. This community is pretty closely followed, so I’m sure people are going to have a look anyway.

        By the way, what do you think about the removal of the “no rage bait” rule?

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          Since you wont respond to DMs

          You have 3 times now, indirectly called for a community I’ve been running to be removed (plus a bonus time after I left the mod team of a community). I’ve tried to discuss with you in DMs, but you don’t respond.

          I think the recent politicking you have demonstrated shows we are no longer working collaboratively toward a lemmy for a diversity of viewpoints and communities.

          You don’t owe me a response, but we have been collaborators in community building, so I would have liked the curtesy of some response to DMs.

          Since our professional relationship has broken down, I can’t collaborate with you on [email protected] any more. I’ve transferred the community to your BoozeOrWater alt and left the mod team. You worked really hard in promoting that community, and by all rights it should be yours.

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      You don’t understand what the rule means - it is to encourage participation, ie posting and commenting. Blanket downvoting has exactly opposite effect discouraging participation.

  • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
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    4 hours ago

    For people tired of this topic, feel free to hide the post, except if you’re on Lemmy.world which is still running on 0.19.3 (that feature was introduced later)