FYI @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] and a few others
A rage bait post they just restored: https://lemmy.world/post/24282976. The initial removal was about rule 3 - no rage baiting. That rule has been removed.
Another rage bait comment against vegans: https://lemmy.world/comment/14535452
@[email protected] , @[email protected] , @[email protected] could any of you have a look at the votes on this post?
Another comment getting instantly 5 upvotes, and my post and comment getting 3 to 5 upvotes at a low traffic time seems suspicious
Hm… I’m not sure it is worth bothering too much about, honestly. That said:
There is a little bit of a suspicious pattern. Three different accounts, all active during the same short span of time (space of 6 minutes) during a quiet time, all giving one downvote to the post, and then a couple downvotes and upvotes in the comments boosting a particular point of view in slightly different ways.
One of the suspicious voters seems to be to be clearly a bad-faith political propaganda account, which is interesting. I have a theory that some of the political propagandists like to incite pointless drama related to specific mods, or specific hot-button issues like veganism, just to add noise and unpleasantness to the system, and give a vehicle if they want to attack some particular user or get them riled up to motivate moderator action against them.
Just a little bit of correlation doesn’t necessarily mean anything, of course. Sometimes random data contains stuff that looks like patterns but isn’t. On the other hand, two of those accounts are on the same instance, which means it’s easy to send a DM to one of the admins pointing it out so that they can check to see if they’re coming from the same IP or other indications that they’re the same person doing voter fraud.
Do you think it’s worth bothering? A small amount of voting fraud is kind of the nature of the beast, and it’s hard to be sure about this kind of thing.
Sucks to get down votes not relating to the community, doesn’t it?
Not really, just curious. This community is pretty closely followed, so I’m sure people are going to have a look anyway.
By the way, what do you think about the removal of the “no rage bait” rule?
Since you wont respond to DMs
You have 3 times now, indirectly called for a community I’ve been running to be removed (plus a bonus time after I left the mod team of a community). I’ve tried to discuss with you in DMs, but you don’t respond.
I think the recent politicking you have demonstrated shows we are no longer working collaboratively toward a lemmy for a diversity of viewpoints and communities.
You don’t owe me a response, but we have been collaborators in community building, so I would have liked the curtesy of some response to DMs.
Since our professional relationship has broken down, I can’t collaborate with you on [email protected] any more. I’ve transferred the community to your BoozeOrWater alt and left the mod team. You worked really hard in promoting that community, and by all rights it should be yours.
Can you explain a little more about this? Nothing I’ve seen under this post has been calling for a community to be removed, just explaining a particular moderator action that he disagrees with.
None of it is overt, but I’ve played politicks long enough to know when I’m being systematically undermined.
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12 days ago: https://hackertalks.com/post/5695193/6088825 Whataboutism brought up over and over about the previous vegan drama when discussing the carnivore drama.
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9 days ago : https://hackertalks.com/post/5728508/6124480
Seems fine on the surface, “Hey what if it can be proven unhealthy”,
Then poking people to prove its unhealthy https://hackertalks.com/post/5728508/6160432
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3 days ago:
Copy pasting sunshines screed into the New Moderator message in [email protected] https://lemm.ee/post/52635163/17504025
Why? To resolve the Lemmy.world TOS health concerns (note he hasn’t done this to the vegan community). He did move it into a new post when requested, at this point he was not responding to DMs (or rather selective in responding to anything except about my questions of his questioning my community at every stage.
So in the post blaze made repeating sunshines screed https://lemm.ee/post/52660382 , I respond, but I think at this point sunshine had me blocked so they didn’t read or respond, so blaze pokes them. https://lemm.ee/post/52660382/17528261 (really trying to get a fight going I think)
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This PTB thread about carnivore as well. (This is the bonus event, now that I’m no longer a moderator of that community)
During this I was DMing them saying I was feeling attacked that they kept trying to make a fight happen between the vegan community and the carnivore (basically only me) community over health concerns, and I didn’t get a response.
It’s clear they don’t agree with my niche community, that’s fine. Calling attention and creating situations where a new community has to justify itself isn’t great. Using a new community as a foil for some understated motive isn’t great (if that was the scenario).
As a individual lemmy user all of this is fine, but as someone I was collaborating with on a different community that isn’t good for me.
Since communication had broken down, and event 3 happened today, I thought it was best for me to untangle myself from the previous commitment.
As far as the actual zero carb carnivore people go, there are about 2 or 3 of us on lemmy that post and comment. Thats a huge amount of responsibility for a few shoulders, getting involved in other peoples agendas isn’t something I have the stomach for.
I think you’re very much overreacting here. Someone who says, truthfully, that you did thing X and they don’t agree with it doesn’t mean they are “systematically undermining” you. It definitely doesn’t mean that they’re calling for your community to be removed, even if some totally different person might come to a totally different conclusion that the true thing that you actually did might imply that as a possible remedy.
Personally, I see absolutely no reason why “I didn’t agree with the mod when they did thing X” would imply that the community should be removed. Has any community ever been removed, or anyone ever suggested it, based on any post here which are basically all the same type of “systematic undermining” of some mod activity?