Rep. Ro Khanna said that “many” in the House Democratic caucus, including himself, will back Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Tuesday’s vote.

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    Ngl I think AOC should straight up form a new party with Bernie or something like that, because the DNC is just gonna keep giving us the neoliberal shit sandwich until they’re subsumed by the Republican Party outright (other parties being outlawed, of course).

    I know that end-state sounds hyperbolic, but at this point I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s how things eventually play out if this authoritarian slide continues.

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      Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to ‘build coalitions’ by working within the party

      If this is what she got for her support of Israel and ‘working within the party’, then I think she might have been taken for a ride

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        Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to ‘build coalitions’ by working within the party

        She is right. Divide and conquer is a super effective strategy, the left loves doing the divide part to itself then acts shocked when it gets conquered.

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        Like how Bernie “worked with” the Dems by bending the knee to Hillary after the 2016 primary?

        Yeah idk why the progressives think they can work with the right wing obstructionists that are the Democratic party.

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        Unfortunately not the first time AOC’s “learned” this lesson. See? She is a great Dem, learn nothing and do it again.

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      It’s not a bad idea. However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC’s image. It is the right time to begin setting the foundations though, make no mistake.

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        However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC’s image.

        And how would anyone go about that when the party leadership is fighting them at every turn?

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          The only legal way would be to mimic the corporations that captured the DNC to begin with, basically bribes.

          You’d have to create a super PAC that only funds left leaning democratic candidates, and one that would be willing to fund primaries against incumbents within the DNC.

          The main problem is that parties only care about funding now, and there aren’t exactly a bunch of leftist billionaires.

          Citizens vs United basically ensured that any form of social economic reform is off the table for the foreseeable future. The political parties are bought and paid for, and will continue to funnel public spending into privatization until capitalism reaches terminal growth.

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            We can indirectly fight this through grassroots campaigning from the bottom up. Assuming we aren’t completely fucked by 2028 this type of strategy would ensure long term success.

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              I think “grassroots” campaigning is an idea that parties use to dangle as a carrot in front of the eyes of the progressive wings of the party. If you look at any successful “grassroots” campaign in the last ten years you’ll usually find someone with deep pockets funding them.

              All campaigns take people’s time and money to sustain itself, without that funding you’re just going to be smothered out. Plus, this isn’t a localized problem, it’s systemic.

              Grassroot campaigns are meant to solve endemic problems, it’s not something suitable to change the hierarchical structure of a national political party.

              The innate problem with the DNC is that leadership roles are subservient to the people who control the actual funding of the party. People like Nancy Pelosi aren’t shot callers because of their “leadership abilities”, they are in control because they have long established connections to mega donors.

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                Apart from a France-esque uprising, focusing on local elections, State Assemblies, and reinforcing the foundations of strong candidates at the levels we can have individual impact at naturally helps on a larger scale. It’s really a question of organization, as funding at local levels can often be measured in the hundreds or thousands instead of the millions. People are tired of feeling helpless, let’s give them a way to channel that energy.

                This is ultimately what I wanted if Biden/Harris won. Four years to prepare. Now it’s four years to survive.

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    “Pelosi’s penchant for backroom sabotage was easy to cheer when she was pushing fellow octogenarian and likely loser Joe Biden out of the presidential race; it’s harder to justify when an eminently qualified rising star—who, whether Pelosi likes it personally or not, is widely known to be a cornerstone of the party’s future—pushes for a simple promotion,” Sammon added.

    God damn…

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    Hopefully the old fuck just has a stroke tomorrow and keels over. That would be a fitting divine punishment for his hubris and desperate clinging to power. Those that refuse to let the next generation take the reins in their time deserve to sudden suffer sudden heart attacks. Peaceful retirement is for those who actually are willing to retire.

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        If I get my hands on one of those, I’m going to need a microfiche writer…

        Also, be prepared for a thousand fold multiplying of deaths due to auto-erotic asphyxiation…

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    We need so many more Luigi’s to fix this country for the hand sitters.
    -Me, a hand sitter

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    > I’m here to end insider politics!

    > *plays insider politics*

    > *gets fucked by insider politics*

    Who could have seen this coming?

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    It’s great when the people running the country on both sides refuse to learn anything from their mistakes.

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      There seems to be only one side, with minor views on which group of people they are targeting.

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    And so AOC compromised everything she claimed to believe in for nothing. Still refused her seat at the table.

    Let this be a lesson to any other progressives who thinks they can sell out to gain favor with party leadership.

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        Everything she ever claimed she stood for. She hasn’t held to any promises, and has sold out progressives to the Dem establishment again and again and again.

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            You want me to rehash her entire political career of fucking over the base to appease Pelosi? There’s a reason people call her AOCia.

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              You want me to rehash her entire political career of fucking over the base to appease Pelosi? There’s a reason people call her AOCia.

              You seem super pissed about it and care enough to post repeatedly about it so if you want people actually believe you…yeah you should probably have literally anything to back it up.

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              No need for the entire rehash–feel free to just cherry pick some votes from her track record that her base expected her to vote one way, but she voted another. Since she’s apparently done so again and again and again, that shouldn’t be too hard for you, as you seem to follow her career closely. When politicians do that kind of thing frequently enough to build a reputation, someone usually compiles those instances. A link to such a compilation would also work to sway your detractors.

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          Legitimately curious about this. Since the sources I read don’t mention this, I am afraid I’ll be doomed to relying on propaganda unless someone educates me. Please help me by providing examples of AoC selling out, and ideally link to the sources so that I may enlighten myself in the future. Thanks!

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        For someone who doesn’t give a fuck about our personal morals, they sure spend a lot of money to manipulate them.

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    We could use a purple party where both butthurt teams can get along somewhere in the middle

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      That’s what the DNC keeps trying to be, and why they keep losing to fascists. They’ll do anything to not have to listen to their voters, because it costs their donors money