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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)
caption: āāāAI is itself significantly accelerating AI progressāāā
wow I wonder how you came to that conclusion when the answers are written like a Fallout 4 dialogue tree
- āYES!!!ā
- āYes!!ā
- āYes.ā
- " Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā (yes)"
So we have this new tech that makes stuff up and also is a bit racist at times? Lets use it to monitor employees, of course it also trains to replace your job.
This is fucked even without the hallucinating Clippy in the backend.
If your desktop is idle for more than 30-60 seconds (no āmeaningfulā mouse & keyboard movement), you get a red flag
People getting
floggedflagged for being lazy for a few seconds reminds me of something ā¦Flagged by AI for being lazy for being the one guy in the office who actually refills the coffee machine.
andrew tateās āuniversityā had a leak, exposing cca 800k usernames and 325k email addresses of people that failed to pay $50 monthly fee
entire thing available at DDoSectrets, just gonna drop tree of that torrent:
āāā Private Channels āĀ Ā āāā AI Automation Agency.7z āĀ Ā āāā Business Mastery.7z āĀ Ā āāā Content Creation + AI Campus.7z āĀ Ā āāā Copywriting.7z āĀ Ā āāā Crypto DeFi.7z āĀ Ā āāā Crypto Trading.7z āĀ Ā āāā Cryptocurrency Investing.7z āĀ Ā āāā Ecommerce.7z āĀ Ā āāā Health & Fitness.7z āĀ Ā āāā Hustler's Campus.7z āĀ Ā āāā Social Media & Client Acquisition.7z āĀ Ā āāā The Real World.7z āāā Public Channels āĀ Ā āāā AI Automation Agency.7z āĀ Ā āāā Business Mastery.7z āĀ Ā āāā Content Creation + AI Campus.7z āĀ Ā āāā Copywriting.7z āĀ Ā āāā Crypto DeFi.7z āĀ Ā āāā Crypto Trading.7z āĀ Ā āāā Cryptocurrency Investing.7z āĀ Ā āāā Ecommerce.7z āĀ Ā āāā Fitness.7z āĀ Ā āāā Hustler's Campus.7z āĀ Ā āāā Social Media & Client Acquisition.7z āĀ Ā āāā The Real World.7z āāā users.json.7zyeah i studied defi and dropshipping at andrew tateās hustler university
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
Ugh. Tangentially related: a streamer I follow has been getting lots of people in her chat saying that one of the taters wants to hire her. Iāve started noticing comments like āI love white cultureā and weird fantasies about the roman empire. Historically sheās also been asked multiple times what her ethnicity is (she is white), specifically if she is scandanavian, which I am starting to view under some kind of white supremacist lens. Iāve told her to ignore anything mentioning the taters or ātop gā as one of them is known.
Honestly, Iām worried that she could get brigaded by these creeps, even if she shows no response whatsoever.
I mean, according to the charges Tate hiring young women usually meant some variety of sex trafficking and adult video that he took the money for. Tbh the whole space is sufficiently toxic that she ought to start dropping the banhammer judiciously, but IDK what situation is politically economically etc.
āYeah I thought about going into civil engineering but the department of hustling really spoke to me yāknow?ā
i have never felt imposter syndrome since
nikhil suresh, probably
Iām just curious how many hits you would get if you searched for ā4 hour work weekā, as iirc that is where all these people stole the idea from. (well, not totally, the idea they are stealing is selling others the idea of the 4 hour work week, but I hope you get what I mean, 4 hour work weeks all the way down).
not many. 2 hits for ā4 hour workweekā and 35 for ā4 hour work weekā another 4 for ā4-hour workweekā and 5 for ā4-hour work weekā
Thanks!
alright itās 14gb of json files let me figure out how to grep it in reasonable way and iāll get there for now iāll say that the biggest one (size) in private channels is ācrypto tradingā (2 gb) then ācrypto investingā (1.6gb), while in public channels itās āthe real worldā (1.7 gb) and āecommerceā (0.87 gb)
obligatory IBCK.
thatās not even that, maybe with exception for tate &co. itās just shilling shitcoins and selling hopes like that one tiktok spammer mussy described by 404media
See, isnāt the 4-hour work week one of those ājust make other people work 50+hours a week on your behalf and take the money theyāve earned for itā schemes? This looks much broader rather than being married to a specific sub-scam. Like, if crypto is down they can sell drop shipping. If drop shipping is cringe they can sell AI slop monetization. If Amazon tightens their standards and starts locking out AI stuff they can go back to crypto.
Itās in the same genre of trying to monetize being a conspicuous asshole, but it is one of the more complex evolutions, at least compared to the standard grift-luencer.
I think it is that book yes, it started a lot of these things, and a lot of these people (im generalizing here, but the Tates are imho part of a long line of manosphere people who all do this kind of stuff, selling others courses into dropshipping, courses into setting up passive income streams, courses into getting laid/mindset etc. And it seems like the only thing they manage to really sell is courses. I donāt think it is that complex an evolution more like the natural progression, of course they get into crypto and AI slop. I think the only real change of somebody like Tate vs the other weirdos who did this (somebody like Cernovic was also one of these people for example) is that Tate has a little bit of charisma for an important market segment (the under 18 year olds).
The word āderangedā is getting a workout lately, aināt it?
fwiw i attribute this to the stop doing x meme (that I believe skillissuer is referencing):
been thinking about making one for (memory) safe c++, but unfortunately I donāt know the topic deep enough to make the meme good
magnificent!
yeah thatās what i was going for
One of my favorite meme templates for all the text and images you can shove into it, but trying to explain why you have one saved on your desktop just makes you look like the Time Cube guy
Oh hey looks like another Chat-GPT assisted legal filing, this time in an expert declaration about the dangers of generative AI: https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/stanford-professor-lying-and-technology-19937258.php
The two missing papers are titled, according to Hancock, āDeepfakes and the Illusion of Authenticity: Cognitive Processes Behind Misinformation Acceptanceā and āThe Influence of Deepfake Videos on Political Attitudes and Behavior.ā The expert declarationās bibliography includes links to these papers, but they currently lead to an error screen.
Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.
Interesting post and corresponding mastodon thread on the non-decentralised-ness of bluesky by cwebber.
https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
https://social.coop/@cwebber/113527462572885698
The author is keen about this particular āvision statementā:
Preparing for the organization as a future adversary.
The assumption being, stuff gets enshittified and how might you guard your product against the future stupid and awful whims of management and investors?
Of course, they donāt consider that it cuts both ways, and Jack Dorseyās personal grumbles about Twitter. The risk from his point of view was the company he founded doing evil unthinkable things like, uh, banning nazis. Heās keen for that sort of thing to never happen again on his platforms.
note that cwebber wrote the ActivityPub spec, btw
how come every academic I have worked with has given me some variation of
they already have all of my data, I donāt really care about my privacy
iām in computer science š
When people start going on about having nothing to hide usually it helps to point out how thereās currently no legal way to have a movie or a series episode saved to your hard drive.
I suspect great overlap between the nothing-to-hide people and the people who watch the worst porn imaginable but think incognito mode is magic.
whatās wild is in the ideal case, a person who really doesnāt have anything to hide is both unimaginably dull and has effectively just confessed that they would sell you out to the authorities for any or no reason at all
people with nothing to hide are the worst people
the marketing fucks and executive ghouls who came up with this meme (that used to surface every time I talked about wanting to de-Google) are also the ones who make a fuckton of money off of having a real-time firehose of personal data straight from the source, cause thatās by far whatās most valuable to advertisers and surveillance firms (but I repeat myself)
The thing is, Iām pretty sure the overwhelming majority of the data is effectively worthless out of the online advertising grift. Itās thoughtlessly collected junk sold as data for its own sake.
It works because no one working in advertising knows what a human beings is.
my strong impression is that surveillance advertising has been an unmitigated disaster for the ability to actually sell products in any kind of sensible way ā see also the success of influencer marketing, under the (utterly false) pretense that itās less targeted and more authentic than the rest of the shit weāre used to
but marketing is an industry run by utterly incompetent morally bankrupt fuckheads, so my impression is also that none of them particularly know or care that the majority of what theyāre doing doesnāt work; thereās power in surveillance and they like that feeling, so the data remains extremely valuable on the market
Never thought Iād die fighting alongside a League of Legends fan.
Aye. That I could do.
You just know Netflixās inbox is getting flooded with the absolute worst shit League of Legends players can come up with right now
And having played more LoL than I care to admit in high school, thatās some truly vile shit. If only it actually made it through the filters to whoever actually made the relevant choices.
Dude discovers that one LLM model is not entirely shit at chess, spends time and tokens proving that other models are actually also not shit at chess.
The irony? Heās comparing it against Stockfish, a computer chess engine. Computers playing chess at a superhuman level is a solved problem. LLMs have now slightly approached that level.
For one, gpt-3.5-turbo-instruct rarely suggests illegal moves,
Writeup https://dynomight.net/more-chess/
HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42206817
LLMs sometimes struggle to give legal moves. In these experiments, I try 10 times and if thereās still no legal move, I just pick one at random.
uhh
Battlechess both could choose legal moves and also had cool animations. Battlechess wins again!
Particularly hilarious at how thoroughly theyāre missing the point. The fact that it suggests illegal moves at all means that no matter how good itās openings are the scaling laws and emergent behaviors havenāt magicked up an internal model of the game of Chess or even the state of the chess board itās working with. I feel like playing games is a particularly powerful example of this because the game rules provide a very clear structure to model and itās very obvious when that model doesnāt exist.
I remember when several months (a year ago?) when the news got out that gpt-3.5-turbo-papillion-grumpalumpgus could play chess around ~1600 elo. I was skeptical the apparent skill wasnāt just a hacked-on patch to stop folks from clowning on their models on xitter. Like if an LLM had just read the instructions of chess and started playing like a competent player, that would be genuinely impressive. But if what happened is they generated 10^12 synthetic games of chess played by stonk fish and used that to train the model- that aināt an emergent ability, thatās just brute forcing chess. The fact that larger, open-source models that perform better on other benchmarks, still flail at chess is just a glaring red flag that something funky was going on w/ gpt-3.5-turbo-instruct to drive home the āeMeRgEnCeā narrative. Iād bet decent odds if you played with modified rules, (knights move a one space longer L shape, you cannot move a pawn 2 moves after it last moved, etc), gpt-3.5 would fuckin suck.
Edit: the author asks āwhy skill go down thoā on later models. Like isnāt it obvious? At that moment of time, chess skills werenāt a priority so the trillions of synthetic games werenāt included in the training? Like this isnāt that big of a mysteryā¦? Itās not like other NN havenāt been trained to play chessā¦
Here are the results of these three models against Stockfishāa standard chess AIāon level 1, with a maximum of 0.01 seconds to make each move
Iām not a Chess person or familiar with Stockfish so take this with a grain of salt, but I found a few interesting things perusing the code / docs which I think makes useful context.
Skill Level
I assume ālevelā refers to Stockfishās Skill Level option.
If I mathed right, Stockfish roughly estimates Skill Level 1 to be around 1445 ELO (source). However it says āThis Elo rating has been calibrated at a time control of 60s+0.6sā so it may be significantly lower here.
Skill Level affects the search depth (appears to use depth of 1 at Skill Level 1). It also enables MultiPV 4 to compute the four best principle variations and randomly pick from them (more randomly at lower skill levels).
Move Time & Hardware
This is all independent of move time. This author used a move time of 10 milliseconds (for stockfish, no mention on how much time the LLMs got). ā¦ or at least they did if they accounted for the āMove Overheadā option defaulting to 10 milliseconds. If they left that at itās default then 10ms - 10ms = 0ms so š¤·āāļø.
There is also no information about the hardware or number of threads they ran this one, which I feel is important information.
Evaluation Function
After the game was over, I calculated the score after each turn in ācentipawnsā where a pawn is worth 100 points, and Ā±1500 indicates a win or loss.
Stockfishās FAQ mentions that they have gone beyond centipawns for evaluating positions, because itās strong enough that material advantage is much less relevant than it used to be. I assume it doesnāt really matter at level 1 with ~0 seconds to produce moves though.
Still since the author has Stockfish handy anyway, itād be interesting to use it in itās not handicapped form to evaluate who won.
@gerikson @BlueMonday1984 the only analysis of computer chess anybody needs https://youtu.be/DpXy041BIlA
Stack overflow now with the sponsored crypto blogspam Joining forces: How Web2 and Web3 developers can build together
I really love the byline here. āKindest view of one anotherā. Seething rage at the bullshittery these āweb3ā fuckheads keep producing certainly isnāt kind for sure.
a better-thought-out announcement is coming later today, but our WriteFreely instance at gibberish.awful.systems has reached a roughly production-ready state (and you can hack on its frontend by modifying the
templates,pages,static, andlessdirectories in this repo and opening a PR)! awful.systems regulars can ask for an account and Iāll DM an invite link!Strap in and start blasting the Depeche Mode.
When the reporter entered the confessional, AI Jesus warned, āDo not disclose personal information under any circumstances. Use this service at your own risk.
Do not worry my child, for everything you say in this hallowed chamber is between you, AI Jesus, and the army of contractors OpenAI hires to evaluate the quality of their LLM output.
The mask comes off at LWN, as two editors (jake and corbet) dive in to frantically defend the honour of Justine fucking Tunney against multiple people pointing out sheās a Nazi who fills her projects with racist dogwhistles
Not the only trans NRXer to pull this Iām afraid. I could say things but I really canāt I think.
Is Google lacing their free coffee??? How could a woman with at least one college degree believe that the government is even mechanically capable of dissolving into a throne for Eric Schmidt.
fuck me that is some awful fucking moderation. I canāt imagine being so fucking bad at this that I:
- dole out a ban for being rude to a fascist
- dole out a second ban because somebody in the community did some basic fucking due diligence and found out one of the accounts defending the above fascist has been just a gigantic racist piece of shit elsewhere, surprise
- in the process of the above, I create a safe space for a fascist and her friends
but for so many of these people, somehow thatās what moderation is? fucking wild, how the fuck did we get here
See, youāre assuming the goal of moderation is to maintain a healthy social space online. By definition this excludes fascists. Itās that old story about how to make sure your punk bar doesnāt turn into a nazi punk bar. But what if instead my goal is to keep the peace in my nazi punk bar so that the normies and casuals keep filtering in and out and making me enough money that I can stay in business? Then this strategy makes more sense.
Centrists Donāt Fucking Be Like This challenge not achieved yet again
fwiw this link didnāt jump me to a specific reply (if you meant to highlight a particular one)
It didnāt scroll for me either but thereās a reply by this corbet person with a highlighted background which I assume is the one intended to be linked to
Post by Corbet the editor. āWe get it: people wish that we had not highlighted work by this particular author. Had we known more about the person in question, we might have shied away from the topic. But the article is out now, it describes a bit of interesting technology, people have had their say, please letās leave it at that.ā
So you updated the article to reflect this right? padme.jpg
Seems like theyāve actually done this now. Thereās a preface note now.
This topic was chosen based on the technical merit of the project before we were aware of its authorās political views and controversies. Our coverage of technical projects is never an endorsement of the developersā political views. The moderation of comments here is not meant to defend, or defame, anybody, but is in keeping with our longstanding policy against personal attacks. We could certainly have handled both topic selection and moderation better, and will endeavor to do so going forward.
Which is better than nothing, I guess, but still feels like a cheap cop-out.
Side-note: I can actually believe that they didnāt know about Justine being a fucking nazi when publishing this, because I remember stumbling across some of her projects and actually being impressed by it, and then I found out what an absolute rabbit hole of weird shit this person is. So I kinda get seeing the portable executables project, thinking, wow, this is actually neat, and running with it.
Not that this is an excuse, because when you write articles for a website that should come with a bit of research about the people and topic you choose to cover and you have a bit more responsibility than someone whoās just browsing around, but what do I know.
Well, at least they put down something. More than I expected.
And doing research on people? In this economy?
so is corbet the same kind of fucker thatāll complain āeverything is so political nowadaysā? it seems like they are
@dgerard @BlueMonday1984 also, and I know this is way beside the point, update the design of your website, motherfuckers
I donāt run any websites, what are you coming at me for
most of the dedicated Niantic (Pokemon Go, Ingress) game players I know figured the company was using their positioning data and phone sensors to help make better navigational algorithms. well surprise, itās worse than that: theyāre doing a generative AI model that looks to me like itās tuned specifically for surveillance and warfare (though Niantic is of course just saying this kind of model can be used for robotsā¦ seagull meme, āwhat are the robots for, fucker? why are you being so vague about whoās asking for this type of model?ā)
Quick, find the guys who were taping their phones to a ceiling fan and have them get to it!
Jokes aside Iām actually curious to see what happens when this one screws up. My money is on one of the Boston Dynamics dogs running in circles about 30 feet from the intended target without even establishing line of sight. Theyāll certainly have to test it somehow before it starts autonomously ordering drone strikes on innocent peopleās homes, right? Right?
Pokemon Go To The War Crimes
Pokemon Go To The Hague
