• GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldOP
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      why are y’all scared of taking responsibility for allowing a Nazi to gain power when you decided to not vote?

      the DNC is out of touch with voters.

      that doesn’t absolve the electorate from failing to rally behind a candidate that was the best choice to stop a NAZI REGIME from taking power.

      if you didn’t vote, or voted 3rd party, you’re no better than magats.

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        why are y’all scared of taking responsibility for allowing a Nazi to gain power when you decided to not vote

        I voted for Kamala but I still blame the DNC

        the issue is two fold

        a) they played games with democracy, further accelerating the erosion of whatever little faith remains in our democracy institutions. there should have been a primary, not the underhanded switcharoo we got to witness where for the first time in US history since primaries were a thing… we had a presidential candidate nominated without a single vote

        b) while voters are struggling and going through a period of profound insecurity - not only financially but in a very real social sense - they offer more of the same. neoliberal status quo. people are desperate for change and the DNC offers them nothing.

        you blame the voters but you do not want to put an ounce of blame on the party that would rather lose an election than offer meaningful change

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          and installing a Nazi regime that has, on record, stated they will never let go of control is the best answer y’all could come up with?

          how is any of that going to make the struggle BETTER?

          will unbridled fascism help calm the masses and stabilize the inequalities of the previous democracy?

          will it restore and protect the rights of Americans?

          you blame the voters but you do not want to put an ounce of blame on the party that would rather lose an election than offer meaningful change

          I blame the DNC of being inept! I never fucking said they weren’t!

          I can still blame the electorate for allowing a fascist dictatorship to take hold in American government.

          Just because you call out a fault doesn’t absolve the other party, both are at fault here. I’m just disappointed that voters ignored all reason and decided to fuck all of us(including themselves), to spite us.

          btw, what kind of “meaningful change” can we expect now that sweet potato Hitler is in power?

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        Should the DNC have put forward a candidate that was fairly selected with grass roots support among the wider voting population?

        No, it’s the voters who are at fault.

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          do you think there was enough time?

          use your fucking brain.

          Americans that purposely withheld votes cause this to happen. point. fucking. blank.

          when it actually mattered 20 million Americans abandoned their posts to protect democracy. full stop.

          when a house is on fire, do you save the stuff or the people first?

          Nevermind, you just want to blame the fire dept from not showing up faster.

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            do you think there was enough time?

            Yes. Other countries manage just fine.

            Americans that purposely withheld votes cause this to happen. point. fucking. blank.

            Maybe they didn’t purposely withhold votes. Maybe they were just not enthusiastic enough about the DNC candidate.

            20 million Americans abandoned their posts to protect democracy

            This is not democracy. It’s a corporatocracy that’s one candidate away from dictatorship.

            when a house is on fire, do you save the stuff or the people first

            The house is on fire because the two greedy landlords have refused to do basic maintenance and listen to the concerns of their tenants.

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        The blame falls on people in power not delivering for the working class/poor. There is no better ally for the GOP than modern spineless Dems who center their politics around them. Every third party voter could have voted for Harris and she still would have lost.

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          The blame falls on people in power not delivering for the working class/poor.

          No, I’m pretty sure it was the people who refused to vote. All 20 million of them failed to identify the obvious threat to our democracy and react accordingly.

          There is no better ally for the GOP than modern spineless Dems who center their politics around them.

          Spoken like a true extremist. Now, the sad thing is, I never considered myself a Democrat. I was something of a hybrid between leftist and Democrat. After this election though, I’m neither. Now I’m an anti-extremist, extremist. And I know I’m not the only one.

          Every third party voter could have voted for Harris and she still would have lost.

          We all know that’s a lie. 20 million votes to Harris would have swung it greatly in her favor.

          But that’s fine. You keep lying, and I’ll keep hating extremists.

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            Cope all you want. But she made the choice to court Republicans and chase the ghosts of Cheney Era Voters and paid for it. When Trump can position himself as to speaking to working class issues than a Dem.

            " hybrid between leftist and Democrat" Yeah a centrists no need to rebrand it.

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      I blame both groups. Both groups are known to be stubborn to the point of short sightedness. Lemmy has a lot of blaming of both at the moment and it’s fair