Demonstrators in South Korea swore off heterosexual dating in protest against misogyny. Now the movement is sparking interest among young American women

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    No man will touch me

    How, pray tell, do they plan to enforce this?

    Trumpers don’t need to date women. They just need to impregnate women. That can perfectly be done via rape, which Trump will make legal (in particular if these women are left-aligned). And then the women will be forced to carry the fetuses to term, which is already legal.

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    Well, I guess maga chuds can always just fall back on good ole reliable porn… ooohhh sorry dipshits, you banned that too.

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      The male maga chuds will just sleep with female maga chuds. This isn’t going to really accomplish anything except for liberals not getting laid or procreating.

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        Except there aren’t that many of those female maga chuds. That’s why they’re so keen on taking away womens’ rights. The only way they can get laid is if the women have no choice.

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        Exactly, stuff like this will just drive more people to the extreme right. Great job…

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        Didn’t we see the Maga dating apps be flooded with dudes and barely any women?

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          I have no facts to back up this claim:

          Isn’t that every dating app? Mostly men and bots?

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            It is now, kinda unrelated but AI really killed all the dating apps. There were always bots and scammers but I was always able to meet women, without subscribing, over a period of like 8 years using them off and on in between relationships. These days even if I payed their bullshit fees all I get are scams

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    Fun history fact, this is also called Lysistratic nonaction after a play by Aristophanes and has been seen in both myth and recorded history for a variety of purposes, usually to end wars or other violence, but also often to protest the infringement of women’s rights.

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    American women should absolutely say it out loud, “If you voted for Trump, no pussy.” I saw that stated (low-key) when I was dating a few years back. Their profiles either said, “Don’t care about politics.”, which translates as, “Fuck off with your Trump shit.” Or, outright said, no MAGA, in those words.

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      ALL women need to go on general strike. Not just if you voted for Trump, for everyone. Hard-line for “no freedom? no work, no sex, no labor”. Watch the economy cripple at the greatest union in history. Watch political organizations form behind women because they’ve been denied access to what women provide.

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      I saw both types on tinder when I was using it a few years ago. Some would say “no MAGA” and some would say “no libs.”

      I suspect religious indoctrination to be the main factor as this was UT and AZ but there are more women out there willing to vote for their own objectification and yoke than I think we assume.

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      Funny, in Russia “I don’t care about politics” usually means something similar to Trump support.

      “No Z” I have seen a lot, but usually those very socialized etc girls have that. I’m aspie (probably also social anxiety and PTSD). Nothing to discuss with people whose profiles indirectly say “don’t be a whiny bitch”.

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    “Don’t talk about politics on the first date” used to be a thing but now even as a man I think I would need to know someone’s political views in detail before a second date. It’s not enough to just vote for the same candidate. Plenty of people who despise each other’s ideology voted for Harris. I’m even afraid to talk to some old friends about politics. I know they’re Democrats but it’s still possible for one of us to say something that would seriously damage the friendship.

    It’s like being Goldilocks. This one is too far right, that one is too far left…

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      That’s so weird, like my ex accidentally found herself on a date with a neonazi once. Sure, politics were once a minor conflict for most people, but even then it’s not like there weren’t communists in the 90s.

      The first date should be “do we mesh, and are we compatible”

      And yeah, I’m so grateful my teenage friends wound up with similar politics to me. A bunch of white kids from the Ohio suburbs and we all wound up some variety of socialists as 30 year olds.

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      If i used tinder, or the like, the first line would be “if you ever voted for trump, swipe (whatever way is bad)”

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    For now, McKenna isn’t sure exactly what 4B will look like to her in the election’s aftermath. She wants to do more research on the community. She’s not swearing off sex for ever, or taking a vow of celibacy. “Now when I go out with my girlfriends meeting people, instead of mingling to find a date, I’m going to mingle to get change,” she said. “When men come on to me, I’m just gonna push back.”

    Good on them!

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    Oh look, more liberal virtue signaling that will totally defeat fascism 🙄 obviously attacking men won the left the presidency… oh wait lol

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      You do realize that when you say “virtue signalling” you really mean “nobody has any virtue and you’re just pretending,” don’t you?

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        No, this is logically incorrect. I’m not the guy you are answering. He means that the person he’s addressing doesn’t have virtue and is pretending.

        However, this kind of boycott is, ahem, historically known to be efficient.

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    You gotta love a bunch of white women blaming the blanket “men,” when it was primarily white men AND women who overwhelmingly elected trump. In fact, they are the group that consistently keeps electing Republicans. Maybe get your house in order and quit grouping the rest of us men in with your dysfunctional families.

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        It’s a major theme of these discussions, when women recognize and discuss how the culture hurts us, there will always be men who self select to identify with these social criticism and martyr themselves. Historical and legal patriarchy be damned, women prioritizing their own safety makes men the REAL victims here.🙄

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          Or maybe it’s just immature women that can’t fathom being a part of the problem ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Keep whining though. One day someone might care

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          That wasn’t my point at all. I support my sisters of color. What I don’t support is white women who benefit from the power structures of white supremacy and deem their status within that status quo more important than anything else, so they bit vote accordingly. Nice deflection though. 🙄 right back at you.

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            What I don’t support is white women who benefit from the power structures of white supremacy

            Sir, this is a South Korean feminist movement.

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              Ma’am, you didn’t read the article.

              Edit: Hell, this smug illiterate didn’t even read the subheading that is right at the top and people upvoted it. Remember, people, bodily autonomy isn’t the only issue at stake with far-right policies, basic literacy suffers as well.

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        Not exactly personal, just tiresome to hear all the time. This ain’t affect me in the least. It’s also ridiculous that’s there’s no outcry regarding the MAJORITY of white women who consistently vote this way. The term “white feminism” was created for a reason.

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          I’m sure women of other races would be interested in this. I think it’s great. If a woman can’t have their own pussy, neither can men. Seems fair to me.

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            They can frame this as a “man” problem if they’d like, but that won’t get their “pussies” back. It’s a white problem first and old problem second. Maybe say they won’t date white men and figure out something that white women care about beyond themselves and attack that. Like I said in another comment, this won’t affect me directly, so whatever on the effects on a dating/sex boycott. That just isn’t the problem. We have a problem in the white community, followed to some degree by problems in the Latino and Asian communities. Some of that is an old people problem generally, but not all of it.

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              No woman of color is ever oppressed by men of color. It’s common knowledge. Men of color support a woman’s right to choose what they do with their bodies. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

              Racist.

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                Trying to deflect by calling me racist and bringing up unrelated “women of color being oppressed by men of color.” If only you were as smart or clever as you thought you were. The article is about American women upset trump was elected and thinking about incorporating something similar to the “4B” movement in the US because they view it as somehow “men’s” fault trump was elected. Exit polling shows it was overwhelming white people, INCLUDING white women, who elected trump. I don’t need a string of smug ass emojis because I actually have a point.

                Clown.

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                  When blaming it all on white people, it’s appropriate to mention non-white people. The 4B movement is not “white women,” it’s women.

                  Clearly, you’re not going to be getting any pussy. Too bad you’ll blame “white people” and not conservative voters—which are not all white.

                  You’ve missed the whole point of it.

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        Naw, I refuse to allow white women to place any yoke upon me. Too many suffered and died to free me from that.