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    The US is at least 40 years removed from any kind of real electronics manufacturing at scale.

    This kind of thing takes generational knowledge to get right and we outsourced that knowledge a long time ago.

    We are now several generations from being able to manufacture electronics on the level.

    Either trump has no idea how anything works or he’s actively trying to destroy the American economy.

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      He will just give out stimulus checks to make everyone think the economy is good. Somehow that’s not socialism though it’s American!

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        yep, warm up those money printers. And too bad for anyone who has saved a nestegg for retirement-- thats all getting watered down now. ah well.

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      He likes Russia so much that he wants the US to become like it. He’s following the post-USSR playbook. He’s trying to destroy the economy so he and his billionaire buddies can buy up the scraps for pennies on the dollar. Which will turn him into an oligarch and will keep him in power after his term is up. And he isn’t going to pay for any of it. He will steal money from the people like he did in his first term with his golf course and his cult following will keep giving him money and buy his crypto coins. That’s why he wants to get rid of cryptocurrency regulation.

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    Can someone please explain to me why he STILL doesn’t have any understanding of how tarrifs work?

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      You’re making the mistake in that his intention is to improve things.

      He doesn’t have to make things better, he just has to say he has made them better. That’s all he’s ever done and it’s worked.

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      he STILL doesn’t have any understanding of how tarrifs work?

      How do you STILL think this isn’t all intentional? They know what they’re doing. They don’t care if we can afford it or not. This is about the conservatives’ bottom line, lol. They don’t care about you, America, China or whether any of it works.

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        It doesn’t do anything for their bottom life because the tariff is something we pay TO CHINA

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          The tariffs got them elected. The fallout of them is a write-off and not their problem. They were the means to an end for votes and swaying opinions and they did their job.

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          Russia wants to pit the US and China against each other to distract and destabilize them both. So all of this is great for Russia’s bottom line.

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      I believe that he does, and he knows shit will cost more, but he ALSO knows that his followers have no clue whatsoever. So prices will increase, and he’ll blame it on one of their many “others”. Keeping them scared and mad is the key to their control over them

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      A candidate that expressed nuanced understanding of economic principles would have been less likely to win the election.

      A candidate that instead promises answers that intuitively sound right. If imports are expensive, then obviously the big business owners will build domestic and give us more money. If you get rid of immigrants, then the business owners will have to pay more for citizen workers. Simple answers that are easier for people to believe in.

      Attempts to explain nuance? That ranges from nerds overcomplicating things and/or those darned liberal elites trying to truck them.

      This cuts both ways. In 2020 Biden won not due to a more sophisticated understanding of things, but simply because things were bad, and the other guy therefore was the obvious choice. So to overcome an incumbent, you just have to have people believe stuff is bad, and provide some believable explanation that you could fix it.

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      Some people want more expensive shit as long as its made in america or with american goods. Thats the point of a tariff.

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    I hope Trump turns out to be the best president in history. Prove me wrong, conservatives. I want to hear how it’s going by the fourth year.

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      Everyone who says he’s not the best President ever will be shot.

      I mean, what do you think? He announced that. Apparently this is what the US-Citizens want.

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      I had similar thoughts in 2016 when he had a first attempt, and it was a dumpster fire. I’m not optimistic this time around.

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    Seeing a stark void of “Fuck China” posts all of a sudden. Crazy what happens when the treat train gets held up at the border.

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      I’m in manufacturing within China. While I’m not American and don’t work with American companies. Lots of our supply chain has said there is high levels of uncertainty in projects. Projects have been on hold for months.

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      Things like this take a while to finalize, so you’re good for now. Just wait until Black Friday to buy anything, since it’s so soon and lots of computer stuff goes on sale.

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        FYI: companies will do 2 things to make black friday kinda suck these days

        1. Prices will go up before black friday so they can have an exagerated sale/discount.

        2. Some companies will make units specifically for black friday. Usually cheaper, less features, and sometimes less reliable.

        Figure out what you want now.

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          Prices will go up before black friday

          It’s before Black Friday now :P

          Amazon show a “lowest price in 30 days” badge if the price is the lowest in the past 30 days, so companies that sell their products on Amazon will sometimes raise the price 30 days before Black Friday.

          Some companies will make units specifically for black friday. Usually cheaper, less features, and sometimes less reliable.

          This has always been the case. Same with outlets - some items at outlet stores are specifically made to be sold at the outlet.

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      Used electronics you already own goes brrr Used electronics for sale will go up in price, because the seller needs money to buy new electronics or maybe food

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      You guys buy new? In Putin Russia we make our own laptops from dishwashers! Imported from Ukraine!

      More seriously, I use some i5-2700 desktop computer and just happy.

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      Remember that you need a pretty new setup to get to run a windows OS that still receives updates. If we talk about computers that is.

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          I am almost there. I had so much problem with Linux on my server that i run back in the days that I said I never want to touch Linux again after last time i installed it. It broke a couple of years later and I knew I could not run windows but had read about Linux mint. Installed with no expectations and that was easier than windows. No problems, easy to config and I got everything to just work as I wish.

          The step from going to Linux on my main computer is not far. I guess I will dual boot for a while since I play a lot of games and once I get accustomed to it I guess it will be my main. Fuck windows.

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    Fuck.

    It hasn’t even started yet and I know that I have 4 more years of this stupidity news ever single day

    Oh wait

    Since Trump will install himself as a dictator, then die, we have a few decades of couche fucker Vance to look forward to, yeeeiii

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    It sucks the prices will go up, and I’m not saying I want this but I feel like they would go up higher than this based on what he said.

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      I’m not sure what’s worse. the fact you can understand the incoherence or that you believed any of it.

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      China loosing USA as a buyer would mean raising prices for other countries to make up for the loss.

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        Gods I hope people stop buying useless crap every other week then and production slows down and then ‘maybe’ we can enjoy a somewhat better climate before things get worse.

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          That might be most efficient enviromental law. But please ban cars in cities first.

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        Another proof that capitalism doesn’t work. Or rather work as intended, but not by us.

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    At some point it becomes easier to just travel to places to buy your gpus and such. When I was in Singapore, their prices on electronics were both good and compatible with my own stuff. I visit there to see an old MMO friend and it’s just… Closer to the source, I guess.