Like I said undertaking is bad. No excuse for doing it, except where it is legal. If someone goes under speed limit in lane 3 you can undertake I believe, though I would still be super cautious.
Obviously speeding is illegal, and I’m not suggesting anyone should support do so. But we should let the police deal with it.
Just to clarify, you don’t think it is ok to sit in lane 2 or 3 at the speed limit if there is room to move over ? Not doing so is also illegal in the UK.
While the majority of people stay within the law (+/- 10%) there are enough people behaving badly on the roads that you should always take that into consideration.
This is a great example of the is/ought problem. You can try your best to make the “ought” true, but don’t neglect what reality “is”. On the road that means; assume there is an idiot nearby, and drive in a way that keeps you safe from their shit.
This is not a great example of the is/ought problem. My point was the argument you presented was illogical.The second last section didn’t match the expectations the last section placed upon the drivers.
If your argument lays expectations upon one party on the road, then the expectation need be applied across all parties.
The argument held the person in front to a higher standard than the frustrated person behind, when they are actually held to the same standard, as it is assumed they have relatively similar abilities to use a motor vehicle on the concerned roads.
Reread it, it is a separate point from the first point i made at the beginning of that comment.
While the majority of people stay within the law (+/- 10%) there are enough people behaving badly on the roads that you should always take that into consideration.
This is an example of an is/oughta. I don’t disagree, defensive driving and all that, but it is an is/oughta.
Just to clarify, you don’t think it is ok to sit in lane 2 or 3 at the speed limit if there is room to move over ? Not doing so is also illegal in the UK.
Depends on the laws dictating the particular roadway. There is a road ettiquette, around moving over if someone comes up behind you, that some people believe is as important as the rules, that isn’t.
You are correct. If the flow of traffic in lane 1 or 2 is faster than the flow of traffic in lane 2 or 3 then it is okay to pass. Intentionally changing lane temporarily to pass a car on the inside is illegal.
The other poster confused your point.
If someone in lane 3 is going 69 and overtaking someone then there’s no reason to pass them, and probably isn’t safe or legal given there is, by definition, a car on the inside lane already.
Like I said undertaking is bad. No excuse for doing it, except where it is legal. If someone goes under speed limit in lane 3 you can undertake I believe, though I would still be super cautious.
Obviously speeding is illegal, and I’m not suggesting anyone should support do so. But we should let the police deal with it.
Just to clarify, you don’t think it is ok to sit in lane 2 or 3 at the speed limit if there is room to move over ? Not doing so is also illegal in the UK.
While the majority of people stay within the law (+/- 10%) there are enough people behaving badly on the roads that you should always take that into consideration.
This is a great example of the is/ought problem. You can try your best to make the “ought” true, but don’t neglect what reality “is”. On the road that means; assume there is an idiot nearby, and drive in a way that keeps you safe from their shit.
This is not a great example of the is/ought problem. My point was the argument you presented was illogical.The second last section didn’t match the expectations the last section placed upon the drivers.
If your argument lays expectations upon one party on the road, then the expectation need be applied across all parties.
The argument held the person in front to a higher standard than the frustrated person behind, when they are actually held to the same standard, as it is assumed they have relatively similar abilities to use a motor vehicle on the concerned roads.
Reread it, it is a separate point from the first point i made at the beginning of that comment.
This is an example of an is/oughta. I don’t disagree, defensive driving and all that, but it is an is/oughta.
Depends on the laws dictating the particular roadway. There is a road ettiquette, around moving over if someone comes up behind you, that some people believe is as important as the rules, that isn’t.
You are correct. If the flow of traffic in lane 1 or 2 is faster than the flow of traffic in lane 2 or 3 then it is okay to pass. Intentionally changing lane temporarily to pass a car on the inside is illegal.
The other poster confused your point.
If someone in lane 3 is going 69 and overtaking someone then there’s no reason to pass them, and probably isn’t safe or legal given there is, by definition, a car on the inside lane already.