• PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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      11 days ago

      Wherever you keep your intellectual honesty in this comment chain started by revisionist nationalism.

      So you have no actual response to the fact that your statement of

      Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.

      is based off the fact that you couldn’t be arsed to read what I’ve said because you were tripping over your own shoes to deepthroat a Soviet jackboot?

      “Just admit to the very first thing you said”. Fuck’s sake.

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        I’ll be real with you, I argued with ten different shitlibs that allying with Nazi Germany was Bad so I missed your qualifying statement at the end of your three innaccurate and misleading claims.

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          Ah yes, inaccurate or misleading claims like [checks notes] easily verifiable campaigns of genocide by the Soviets?

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            And if you’d talked about their actual ethnic cleansing campaigns you’d have a point, or if it was a point worth bringing up at all in this context of deliberately helping the execution of Generalplan Ost.

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              You mean like how… the Soviets deliberately helped the execution of Generalplan Ost in assisting Nazi Germany to take massive amounts of Polish lebensraum with plentiful amounts of untermensch for them to massacre?

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                Are you arguing that Stalin was deliberately helping the plans for the Nazi conquest of the USSR by agreeing to partition a country the Nazis needed no help to conquer?

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                  Are you arguing that Stalin was deliberately helping the plans for the Nazi conquest of the USSR

                  No, just deliberately helping the plans for the Nazi conquest of the ‘east’ that wasn’t under the USSR’s control. Or was Generalplan Ost only bad insofar as the Soviet Union was targeted, and the Poles deserved their untermensch fate?

                  by agreeing to partition a country the Nazis needed no help to conquer?

                  ‘Needed no help to conquer’

                  Fuck’s sake. The Soviet invasion from the east destroyed the Polish military’s entire defence plan. Is this really where we’re at for justification of the Soviets literally assisting the Nazi invasion of a country the Nazis openly wanted to exterminate? “The Nazis would have conquered those filthy Poles anyway”? Are you being fucking serious right now?

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                    I didnt say it was okay, Pug, I said Poland was literally doomed and that’s a fact from the moment the French refused to leave the Line and the British refused to put troops in Poland before the invasion. Their plans meant nothing when they wouldn’t work because they simply didn’t have the tools to win.

                    I also really don’t like defending Stalin’s obvious class treason and rampant incompetence, and it’s not like you’re wrong that he’s a mass murderer, Pug, it’s just that it’s fucked up and revisionist to compare the Soviet displacement programs to the attempted extermination of half the world.