• HeyListenWatchOut@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    118
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    1 month ago

    Because the world shifted to the right a bunch more regarding sexual content… fucking websites now want you to show your ID in some states to view porn.

    I think acclaimed director Paul Verhoeven put it best when he called our country a land full of gleefully violent prudes when people freaked out about his use of sexuality, nudity and people being comfortable naked around members of the opposite sex.

    • Entropywins@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      76
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      1 month ago

      When nudity/sexuality is shown artistically or actually has some depth or place in the story being told, I enjoy it, but 90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.

      • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        36
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        1 month ago

        90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.

        And who HASN’T been in a situation, watching TV or movie with parents or other polite company, when a sex scene comes on (completely unnecessary to the plot), making everyone uncomfortable. I’d like to think that audience surveys have been taken into account to make Hollywood stop including sex scenes.

        • MBM@lemmings.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          31
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          1 month ago

          It’s only uncomfortable if you make it uncomfortable, but if you’re all adults it doesn’t have to be. Maybe it helps to grow up in a less puritanical country than the US though.

          • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 month ago

            Everyone fucks. I don’t need to see the details about that aspect of most characters’ lives in order to understand the story being told about that character. I love sex scenes. I hate sex scenes that are gratuitous and don’t enhance my understanding of story or character. If it’s not needed for one of those things, it doesn’t belong in the story. (and that’s true for any kind of scene, not just sex scenes)

            If the purpose of the sex scene is “you get to see this actress mostly naked” and no other purpose - then yeah, that feels cheap and gratuitous. Make a movie where her sex life matters if you want to show me that.

        • Zannsolo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 month ago

          That’s why I only watch shows like sex/life with my in laws the sex is crucial to the plot.

      • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        1 month ago

        The disappearance of the sex scene in American cinema, the suppression of the body under the moral imperative of commodities in neoliberal capitalism, and Verhoeven as antagonizer.

        Bro, you gotta stop reading shit like this. It’s bad for your brain. Not everything is capitalistic plot to suppress your whatever.

        Why wouldn’t you be able to see it as “the viewers didn’t enjoy our cringe sex scenes, so we got rid of them, cuz we sure as hell couldn’t put real sex scenes into movies”. And no, not because of purity. But because even good porn is cringe and fake.

        So maybe it’s really a decomcratic decision and it’s only possible because through capitalism there’s monetary pressure on the film industry to do the things people want.

        Whichever it is, you gotta stop reading BS that starts with a conclusion in the first sentence, and no matter the subject it’s the same conclusion: capitalism oppressing the working class. You’d make Lenin cringe.

        • griD@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          1 month ago

          Yeah, I’m not discussing the article further after checking your post history.

          Just one little tidbit of information for you: The sentences at the start on a rather lenghty article, usually set in a different typeset, is called “synopsis”. I know I know, I was like “wooaaah” when I learned that >30 years ago.

    • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      The world didn’t do shit.

      It was as normal in Europe to be naked and talk about sex as it is now. Actually, it probably got even a bit more normal.

      Your stupid Hollywood is somehow watched by everyone around the world while it’s produced to cater to your dumb average American. And they’re religious and prudent. And that has been the case since forever. Which is why having naked breasts in your cinema is something wild.

      In the meantime french movies would casually have people full naked every second movie.

      Am I really on a movies community?

      Now, your dumb Hollywood realized their cringe sex scenes aren’t appreciated by about anyone, and so they cut them out. Big deal.

      Definitely not the world shifting, and not even your moronic populace. Proportion of religious prudes is still dropping even in the dumbfuckistan. And yet no more sex in the movies. Go figure.

      • angrystego@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 month ago

        You use strong words for my taste, although I would agree that Americans are much more prudent than Europeans. But the graph we’re discussing here shows a decline in sex depiction in the movies. It shows there are less sex scenes than there used to be. The decline cannot be explained by the differences between the USA and Europe.

    • M137@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      You realize there is more than the US in the world right…? You’re really proving stereotypes by saying “the world” and then giving only US states as an example. A lot of the world haven’t shifted to the right. It’s pretty certain this graph was based on mostly American stuff anyway, so both the image, this whole post and you are all doing the classic 'Murican thing of thinking US specific things apply to the whole world.