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      When fairly compared, yes absolutely.

      What do you think of the human rights of the millions killed and deprived by the US and its allies on a near-constant basis?

      Oh, that’s right, that discourse doesn’t even exist as the topic is framed exclusively in a racist and self-serving way. True Human Rights Violations only come from the nonwhite periphery region, everything else is just sparkling accidental collateral damage for Freedom and Democracy.

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          Certainly compared to the settler imperial core responsible for virtually every war and the racist status quo of systemic deprivation. It is not a serious discussion to imagine otherwise.

          I kind of already said that.

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            We are comparing the current state of countries, yes? Do you think Norway for example currently has an imperialist settler core?

            What would you call China’s ambitions regarding the nine dash line and Taiwan if not imperialist?

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              We are comparing the current state of countries, yes?

              No because what I described is part of a systemic process and is ongoing, has precedent, and has its supporters for future depravity.

              Do you think Norway for example currently has an imperialist settler core?

              Norway is a subimperialist petrostate of the imperial core. It does the bidding of its masters. It is, primarily, irrelevant, but it does sometimes act as a hanger-on in militarism and it certainly loves to pump the price of oil, e.g. supporting American sanctions on Venezuela that CEPR estimated to kill tens of thousands yearly. But naturally, that skips Westerners’ human rights discourse entirely, they pretend sanctions aren’t civilian-targeted dispossession. In addition, Norway just uses loopholes to hide its role in weapons sales, including to Israel.

              What would you call China’s ambitions regarding the nine dash line and Taiwan if not imperialist?

              Getting off-track, aren’t you? Or in your mind would you declare any imperialism you can find a human rights violation? If so, hoo boy is my thesis correct.

              I’ll entertain those two questions when they can be seated coherently, I.E. we have resolved the actual topic and can discuss what imperialism is, as those questions suggest you don’t know.

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                No because what I described is part of a systemic process and is ongoing

                So it is comparing the current state, yes? Taking into account how history shapes it sure, but the current state.

                You’ll need to do more to connect oil why pricing oil is racist. Because it competes with other countries like Venezuela?

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                  So it is comparing the current state, yes? Taking into account how history shapes it sure, but the current state.

                  I already answered, “No”.

                  You’ll need to do more to connect oil why pricing oil is racist.

                  I didn’t say that pricing oil is racist.

                  Because it competes with other countries like Venezuela?

                  Pushing for sanctions from the superpowee is a funny thing to call competition.

                  Please do your best to engage in good faith by reading and addressing what I say. At least, if you’re going to respond. This last response was mostly reading incomprehension, which normally, sure, no biggie, but the amount you didn’t respond to in order to do that? No bueno.

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              What would you call China’s ambitions regarding the nine dash line and Taiwan if not imperialist?

              holy shit crack a history book

              like literally learn the first fucking thing about the situation

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      That’s not money so it’s inconceivable to foreign relations pundits.