cross-posted from: https://lemmy.crimedad.work/post/138601

“That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he’s a bad guy,” said Biden privately, according to Woodward. “He’s a bad fucking guy!”

Reads like a bloody Onion article.

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    The logical conclusion in the face of Biden’s other actions such as keeping on sending weapons to Netanyahu and protecting him in the UN, is that this “leak” is a purposeful and carefully crafted bit of PR from Biden’s team.

    By their own track record, Biden and his minions are about as trustworthy as Netanyahu.

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      Biden and his minions are about as trustworthy as Netanyahu.

      You’re leveraging ‘about as’ pretty heavily here.

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        There is no real different between two kind of shameless liars covering up mass murder of children.

        One might even say Netanyahu is at times less dishonest (if one could measure “honesty” at such infinitesimal levels) because he’s more open about his murderous intentions.

        Biden on the other hand is a full blown hypocrite who claims to want to stop Netanyahu whilst knowingly sending him the very 2000lb bombs used in residential areas in Gaza and Lebanon, a kind which the US Military itself does not use because its collateral damage is too massive.

        They’re both sociopaths, it’s just that while Netanyahu is playing a “strong man” character whilst Biden plays the “powerless to act gentleman”, and many in more modern nations don’t recognized the shameless lying under the latter style as easily as they do under the former.

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          His VP can come out and voice her disagreement with his actions, distancing herself from him and those actions.

          It’s the simplest solution by far.

          Not doing so and instead having the party loyalists go around raging at any who criticize Biden’s complicity in Genocide, is not the simplest solution.

          And yet here we are, with the tribalists piling up on any criticism online instead of Kamala Harris simply voicing her disagreement with Biden’s policies.

          One wonders why exactly the chosen option is not the simplest and most likely to lead to a Trump defeat.

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            Lol. All this is performance anyway. If Harris voiced her disagreement with Biden, the right wing media would have a field day with how disorganized the Dems are and how they can’t be trusted to lead.

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              The “right wing media” (what I would call the far-right media here in Europe) will say pretty anything quite independently of it being true or not. They’ve relentlessly been making shit up about Democrats and will keep on doing so.

              The people who believe the “right wing media” are never going to vote for Kamala because they already believe a massive pile of unbelievable bollocks about her.

              “The right wing media will say” isn’t quite the powerful argument that you think it is for the future POTUS to keep her association with an unrepentant Genocide enabler and supporter.

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              Living in fear of right wing bullying is not productive. We can either cower or we can kick them in the face or ridicule them when they go low. The dems do far too much cowering the past few decades. Americans love a good snappy comeback, and so far all we have doing it is old coach Waltz.

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        Because his abysmal approval ratings bring Harris’s down too. Harris has never been good at formulating any statement of her own principles-- even back when she was running for president against Biden, she had no platform, just bromides that polled well. She’s a cardboard cutout.

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        Or rank and file dems should grow the courage of their convictions and organize to stop allowing the dem centrists to take the zionist campaign money. Polls show most Americans dont support The zionists colonization and their associated war crimes.

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          They’re trying to discourage progressives which could easily make them stay home and let Trump win.

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            You assume too much.

            I simply have principles and won’t just stand quiet in the face of evildoing, no matter what the excuse.

            As I pointed out multiple times before, the simplest thing is for one man, Joe Biden, to change the way he acts, not for millions to close their eyes and swallow their principles (or for thousands of useful idiots to come out and defend his indefensible actions, making themselves accomplices along with him in the mass murder of children).

            In 10 or 20 years’ time, when the full form of this Holocaust is known, I will know I was always on the right side and you and those like you will be trying to forget how you tainted your hands with the blood of children, protecting Biden from being forced to not help murder them anymore.

            I’ll leave you with a thought: do you think the bombing of residential neighborhoods in Beirut with 2000lb bombs sent from the US (which the US Military refuses to use because the collateral damage is too great) which has killed countless civilians including children, would have happened without the useful idiots and tribalists having spend the last year doggedly defending of Biden allowing him to send ever more and more dangerous weapons to Israel? To you really think the chain of events that has resulted in Israel extending the war to Lebanon would’ve still happened if there was a massive outcry against Joe Biden and the Democrats 6 months ago, well before the election?

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              Glad to see people with a spine piping up on this website. I’m so fucking tired of the “non voters help Trump win” narrative. It’s so fucking pathetic.

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                Eh, non-voters in some states could help Trump win, but it’s hardly a universal thing. My bigger issue with this sort of rhetoric is that criticizing absolutely reprehensible policies advanced by the Democrats does not equal endorsing Trump, as many Zionist shills here like to claim. I want to be able to unreservedly back Democratic candidates in the upcoming elections, but “enables and supports genocide and the massacre of civilian men, women and children,” is one hell of a reservation to make your voters have.

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                  Yeah I understand Trump has a better chance of winning if less people vote for Harris. My point is that instead of blaming voters for not wanting to vote for dems people need to blame the dems for not being worth voting for.

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                It’s mask-off really quickly when those who are kinder and engage when you flatly state you’re not voting Dem, too.

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                I’m afraid it doesn’t take much spine to speak up online, especially since I’m an European and hence with little at stake on the US Presidential race.

                (Mind you, I do go beyond words and have a been a member of small Leftwing parties in two of the countries I lived in).

                None the less, thanks for the compliment.

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        You must have been living under a rock for months now if you still think Biden is the one running against Trump.

        Further, I wonder what kind of Morals, Ethics and Principles a person must have to think others should stay mute about two-faced hypocrites actively helping the modern Nazis mass-murder children in, not one but TWO countries, lest the electoral chances of that person’s party are weakened.

        One wonders just how many Nazi-support layers away from the actually Nazis does it take to stop being a Nazi? Is the Nazi-supporter still a Nazi? How about those who support and defend Nazi-supporters - are they Nazis?

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            Zionists are Nazis.

            Same propaganda techniques, same violent unrestrained racism, same calous murdering of those of the “wrong” race.

            The only difference is that the “superior race” the Zionists claim to represent is a different one, as is the one they deem untermenschen (or specifically in their words “human animals”).

            You can literally replace “Israel” for “Germany” and “Jewish People” for “Arian Race” in some of the speeches coming from the Israeli government to end up with something pretty close to some of the Nazi speeches.

            If you want to be technical about it, Zionists are ethno-Fascists - which is a rarer and far more racist and violent kind of Fascism than the traditional one - like the Nazis but they’re not specifically the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (so, not actually the NAZI party), just a modern version of it with a different set of races they see as ubermenschen and untermenschen (what the Zionists call “the chosen people” and the “human animals”).

            So yeah, a guy like Biden actively supporting these modern Nazis with weapons whilst they commit Genocide is also a Nazi (just like somebody giving the KKK weapons knowing they will be used to kill afro-americans counts as being KKK) and those people doggedly coming out to defend Biden of any and all criticism of his actions in this are tainting themselves with the stink of this modern Nazism (they can hardly claim they’re against the mass murder of children whilst actively protecting one of the key guys in making it possible)

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          You must have been living under a rock for months now if you still think Biden is the one running against Trump.

          Straw man

          Further, I wonder what kind of Morals, Ethics and Principles a person must have to think others should stay mute about two-faced hypocrites actively helping the modern Nazis mass-murder children in, not one but TWO countries, lest the electoral chances of that person’s party are weakened.

          Low quality analysis and very biased take on what’s going on.

          One wonders just how many Nazi-support layers away from the actually Nazis does it take to stop being a Nazi? Is the Nazi-supporter still a Nazi? How about those who support and defend Nazi-supporters - are they Nazis?

          Implying I’m a Nazi. Rude and not even original. Not interested in engaging.

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            I was going to write that I don’t think you’re a Nazi, just giving yourself excuses to act in ways that taint you with their stink.

            Then I saw this beauty:

            actively helping the modern Nazis mass-murder children in, not one but TWO countries, lest the electoral chances of that person’s party are weakened.

            Low quality analysis and very biased take on what’s going on.

            Already after the Genocide was well underway Biden sent Israel 2000lb bombs, which the US itself does not use because their collateral damage is too large (they flatten entire housing blocks), which have been used by Israel in both Gaza and in residential areas in Lebanon resulting in horrible numbers of civilian casualties, including many children.

            You Sir, have the morals of a Zionist, a modern Nazi.

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                Feel free to head to reddit and not look back. The worldnews mods there will make darn sure you dont have to deal with these troublesome opinions that you dont agree with. Let me hold the door open for you so you can go. Have a good day now.

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            Rude and not even original. Not interested in engaging.

            Agreed fuckingkangaroos@, yeah, genocide is one thing, but anything you claim to be “rude” should not be tolerated. Tell that guy GOOD DAY, SIR. Its hard to believe anyone would act so rudely about some run-of-the-mill mass murder. I bet that guy uses his salad fork to eat his dinner too. You were right to run away not engage.