And she’s a putin shill. So who cares.
Apparently a lot of Democrats care since they are talking about her so much.
Jill Stein is a Russian plant, and anyone promoting her is a traitor.
Be sure to write to Reuters newswire services to let them know your thoughts about that as well.
To let them know you can’t stop posting in a politics forum about a clear Russian plant less than 30 days before an important election when you should know better?
Yeah, I’m sure they’ll get right on it.
You do realise news sites will report on everything any public figure says, whether it’s relevant or not, but you choose to spread irrelevant shit here, right?
I posted a political news article to a political news community. This community celebrates diversity of thought and opinions. Which means you can post if you want to, and I can post if I want to. Thank you!
Knock yourself out, I guess, but I’d recommend you have a good long look at why everyone downvotes you so much. Maybe think about what you’re doing and that you might be wrong, and why.
You seem to have loads of time to spread misinformation, so I’ll just keep adding words, because every minute you spend reading my replies is another minute you won’t be spending time posting bullshit that helps christian nationalists divide the US.
What did you have for lunch? Did you enjoy it?
Uh oh. You may get banned by a disingenuous coward at some point soon :)
Ahem. I’m I’m just here to discuss the articles friend!
All I’m doing is pointing out facts and suggesting this user ruminate on the reason for their ban.
I’m only here to discuss articles, too, and this article is counterproductive. We’re all friends here! I like to be honest with my friends – what else are friends for?
Hehe I’m trying to do a parody of their account because I think it’s funny but I’m not fully committed to the bit.
Right back on it, I see. Interesting how you once again choose to almost entirely post articles here about candidates you aren’t even voting for. Nothing happening for Rachel Fruit for the last three days of your absence? Can’t say that’s too surprising.
Nothing happening for Rachel Fruit for the last three days of your absence?
Her party has had plenty to say, no worries! https://lemmy.world/c/swp
Well, not exactly “her party” as that’s just the unofficial community you setup.
Most of the articles (not all, but most) there come directly from her party’s website. Any article you see there from themilitant.com/ is from her party. Thanks!
Just because I post an interesting news article, that doesn’t mean I have to subscribe to everything in it. That’s not a rule for posting here. Thanks!
Legitimate and sincere question: What exactly did you find interesting about the article?
Friend, I think with you and I, it’s just best if I don’t reply to you. No matter what I say, I think it’s going to frustrate you. So I’ll just pass on discussing things with you. Sealioning, lying, Russian, team, or whatever works for you to believe about me, but I’m not gonna change your mind.
I feel we are gonna just have to agree to disagree. I’m not going to stop posting, but I don’t think we are gonna ever find neutral ground. Thank you!
What a way to get around answering what should be an easy question, since it’s your go-to reason for posting pro-Trump (yes, that includes Jill) content.
I don’t have to explain anything to you. Nor do I have to tell you or anyone else what I find or don’t find interesting. If you feel this article or this post breaks the community rules, reach out to the mod team. As has been proven, I get no preferential treatment from them. Thank you!
No, you don’t have to, and yet, that’s pretty much all you’re doing in the comments (except when asked a very simple question).
Please see my previous reponse. Thank you!
If you can’t tell the difference between Harris and Trump, your political opinion is 110% invalid.
Exactly this.
Stein said … would four more years of Democratic rule, given high rental costs, the wars in Gaza and Lebanon, and attacks on civil liberties.
Huh? Dems attacking civil liberties?
“This is a very dire situation that will be continued under both Democrats and Republicans. So we say there is no lesser evil in this race,” she said.
This only makes sense regarding the line on Gaza, and even then it’s not true. Biden is having a hard time restraining Israel, that’s true, but under the other guy there wouldn’t be any attempt at restraint at all. This is why Arab Americans for Harris-Walz and Emgage Action are endorsing Harris, and even Uncommitted is encouraging votes for Harris without an explicit endorsement.
I think the “civil liberties” thing is the Democratic position of arresting Gaza protestors who are trespassing and vandalizing, then releasing them with no or minimal charges:
https://lookout.co/uc-santa-cruz-student-arrested-at-gaza-war-anniversary-protest/
vs. the proposed Trump position of removing their citizenship and deporting them:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/27/trump-israel-gaza-policy-donors/
Again, you’d have to be a stone cold idiot to not see the differences here.
Ah, that makes sense. I can see how someone would be upset at what they view as an unfair arrest (even if there are no charges afterwards) but yeah, there’s no real comparison to the other side.
Meh, just because someone sees things differently doesn’t mean their opinion is worthless.
There are folks who feel just as strongly that Harris and Trump are both bad for different reasons—maybe one sees Harris as too corporate and the other sees Trump as too authoritarian.
Different people experience politics in different ways. Doesn’t make one necessarily right and the other necessarily wrong.
Dismissing someone’s perspective just because it doesn’t match others doesn’t help anyone understand each other or actually address the issues.
There’s a difference between seeing things differently and claiming to not see a difference.
A 2nd Trump term will actively injure more people, Americans and non-Americans alike, than a Harris term. Full stop.
And man, I found this amusing:
…Stein told Reuters after a rally attended by about 100 people in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn on Sunday
Weekend rally in one of her supposed “strongholds” of support, and she only had 100 folks show up? There’s city council candidates there that get bigger turnout at events.
Just offer free food and you’d get more. It doesn’t even have to be good food.
Pizza. I go anywhere for pizza!
They’re back and posting BS! Jill (a Russian asset) is still more evil than Kamala, so it really doesn’t matter what she thinks. I can’t wait until the election is over so that you stop posting about the candidate that will lose.
Emphasis on this point.
Jill Stein has NO path to victory. She would require a 50%+1 majority in at least 270 EV worth of states. She doesn’t even have 10% of the vote share in any state. Thus a vote for her is only marginally better than a vote for Trump, and about as effective as staying home on Election Day.
This particular poster’s shiny object, Rechele Fruit, has even LESS of a chance. This candidate would require 50%+1 in three states, plus a successful write-in campaign for 50%+1 in another nine states (has that EVER happened in a SINGLE state) to get 87 EVs, a far cry from the 270 she needs to be elected. A vote for her is a fart in the wind. She doesn’t even make the polling.
One of two people will take the Oath of Office in 2025. If you don’t want Donald Trump and Project 2025 shoved up our privates, vote Harris. If you don’t want Harris, for whatever reason, may you suffer the consequences of Project 2025 particularly harshly, though I doubt many of the shi…err, posters who post here bashing Harris and the Dems will have to suffer the consequences of their claimed votes.
I mostly agree, with one correction:
Thus a vote for her is only marginally better than a vote for Trump
It isn’t. A vote for her IS a vote for trump, because FPTP voting means a (fake) non-right candidate can only siphon votes from the left.
Here’s a great video that shows why, mathematically, she can only help trump win, and explains why a lot of Stein’s money comes from Republican (and Russian) interests. She’s not grass-roots, and she’s not left-leaning. Saying she’s a Russian asset is not hyperbole.
She’s not marginally better than trump – she’s actively anti-democratic.
e: my autocorrect really hates me today.
I will give this a tiny bit of leyway.
Every vote for Trump is BOTH a lost vote for Harris, AND a vote for Trump. If there are 100 people voting for Trump and Harris as neighbourhood VIP, and 80 of them pledge themselves for Harris and 20 for Trump, it’s not a big deal if 50 of the 80 Harris voters decide on Election Day that they’d rather be doing something else than voting, Harris wins 30 to 20, and we’re all good. We could even lose 1 or 2 of these votes to Third Party candidates like Stein, and it’d not matter, But if 29 of the 80 voters say “fuck that woman, Imma vote for Trump”, then suddenly we need all 51 remaining voters to stay on deck, because if three of them decide to stay home or vote third party, we’re fucked. If only ONE of them decides to join the Trumpers, it’s game over – 50/50 tie, and the game is rigged for the Trumpers to get him elected VIP if that happens.
That is what I meant by marginally better. That Stein voter could have betrayed everything they claim to stand for and become a Trump voter, after all!
In a perfect world, where the president was chosen by the popular vote, yes, you’d be right. Going by pure mathematics, everything you said is true.
Unfortunately we have the electoral college, and in key places, the margins are so thin that only a handful of voters being swayed to vote for Stein can make all the difference. We saw this in 2016, where the popular vote went to Hillary but she lost, and the margins in key areas was less than what Stein won in those areas.
This is why she’s being pushed so hard. It has worked before.
I get that people are disillusioned by the clusterfuck that FPTP voting has created, which is why I’ve been pushing so hard for people to fight that, rather than protest-voting, which is objectively worse.
Oh, I’m 100% with you on this! It comes down to this because we have such a bitterly divided country (and frankly world – 8 years ago, I was begging to move to Canada, now, not so much), and it’s real easy to convince people in swing-states to make frankly absofuckinglutely stupid decisions and vote Third Party.
I was just saying it can be worse. That Stein voter could just cut to the chase and vote Trump to ‘burn it all down’…like many said they were going to do in 2016.
True. I just think that’s a distinction without a difference.
Heh, indeed. In the end, we have a fight on our hands. If this election were to be decided like it should be, 70 to 30 AGAINST the convicted felon, if not more, then our resident Satanist could be ignored without a second thought. But it’s like 50.1 vs. 49.9 in the closest races, the ones that will decide the election in the EC, with the Shitgibbon just a HAIRS width behind Harris, and we’ve got all the same shitheads that we PROVED in 2016 were in the tank for Russia and Trump, pushing the exact same bullshit that the Dems are the evilest evil since the beginning of Evil and you should totally vote for the Greenie or somebody else or just fucking stay home, and it fucking worked in 2016 and was pretty damn close to working in 2020. And they’re using and abusing all forms of social media to keep shovelling their bullshit.
Just 28 days, 4 hours, 11 minutes and 36…35…34 HEHEHE seconds until this shit is over. Here’s hoping it ends with the good outcome and not Trump for 4 more years!
Meh, I’m not voting for Stein. Or Harris. Or Trump. So I’m not worried. But thanks for the shoutout for “Rachele” Fruit!
So you have no dog in this fight. Maybe sit this one out, champ, and stop trying to persuade others to follow your anti-democratic example.
For the rest of us, please vote! And bring friends with you! Every vote matters. We need all hands on deck.
Maybe sit this one out, champ, and stop trying to persuade others to follow your anti-democratic example.
Me saying who I am voting for, isn’t “trying to persuade others.”
I have always said, and will continue to say, people should vote for who they want to. Yes, I encourage everyone to vote for and vote for who they want to, and not allow themselves to be bullied into making a decision they are not comfortable with.
So nah, not sitting this one out. Thank you!
You constantly making posts and comments pushing for, again, a clear Russian plant whose entire purpose is to prop up a candidate who has already committed treason twice and who has openly admitted he will end democracy is not benign. Your contributions have, so far, not contributed to healthy discourse, but have been pretty obviously made with the intention to promote division.
If that’s who you are, just own it. If it’s not, take a step back and examine your motives.
Here are some sources for you:
Russians launched pro-Jill Stein social media blitz to help Trump win election, reports say
And – this one is crucial – how to productively redirect your efforts, if you’re in fact sincere: FairVote Action, an actual grass-roots org working to get rid of the FPTP system to make democracy actually fair.
If you take nothing else from my comments, at least look at that last link. Your energy would be far better served there than what you’re doing now. Be the change you want to see.
I’m not voting for Jill Stein, though.
And I’m not pushing her as a candidate, and I’m definitely not telling people who to vote for. I trust the American public to make their own decisions based on what they believe, for whatever reasons matter to them.
I don’t write the articles; I just post links to them. It’s up to each person to decide if they want to click and read or ignore it entirely.
Be the change you want to see.
Oh I am being the change i wanna see. I want to see diversity of political thought without bullying. Thank you!
What country do you live in?
Ah, but the result of your vote will be the same.
Reuters news service wrote a political news article. I thought it was interesting. So I posted it. That’s it. Nothing nefarious going on.
And I’ll do the same thing after the election when I see interesting political news articles. There is no conspiracy here.
Everyone here can already see right through you, as you can see by the comments. You continue to use the “I didn’t write the article” excuse while almost exclusively posting content that will get Trump elected. It’s not hard to see, you’re pretty bad at it.
It’s not hard to see, you’re pretty bad at it.
Well, then you have nothing to worry about or be mad about. So yay!
Me not writing the article isn’t an excuse. It’s a fact. Seriously, write to Reuters if you feel they are doing the public a disservice by writing articles like this. Thank you!
I’m writing you for doing the public here on lemmy a disservice by posting pro-Trump content. It has nothing to do with Reuters.
And I am disagreeing with you and I won’t stop posting articles. Thank you.
You certainly had to stop posting articles when you got banned for sealioning (trolling).
Well, I stopped posting articles here to this one community. But were you under the impression that I stopped posting articles to other communities and even other Lemmy instances? https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
Shill Stein just needs to come out and say that she supports Trump and Putin. Stop skirting around the issue.
Well she hasn’t said it yet, so I wouldn’t count on it happening anytime soon.
I mean, I might say the same thing if I was also running for president.
“Everyone but me sucks! Vote for me!”
Right?! Every candidate running thinks that exact same thing! lmao
Reuters - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)
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Reuters publishes an article across its newswire. Lemmy user reposts it. Somehow, the Lemmy user is a bad actor, not Reuters .
Why not both? Reuters is publishing this for the clicks. Based on the OP’s history of posts and most especially of comments, we’re all well aware of their agenda and lack of good faith engagement (he’s just coming off a three day ban for trolling).
I’ve been banned multiple times for ( misinformation, trolling, spam, etc.) when I was doing none of those. Once. Once, I was banned for concern trolling, because I didn’t know what I was doing. That one was fair. The others were arbitrary and hypocritical, depending on the moderators mood. I’ve been called a bot, a shill, a Russian actor, a Chinese actor, a Trump supporter, pretty much everything. If you don’t think like the hive mind, you’re a target. Which is fine. But remember, if everyone thinks alike this becomes an awfully boring experience.
Oh, I’m well aware. The difference is that account had basically just as many posts and almost half the comments you made - and he’s been here for two months and you’ve been around for at least a year. If he just posted his articles and made a sane amount of comments that weren’t constantly trolling, he’d have a lot easier time, but he literally goes out of his way to be disruptive in the comments
My 3 day ban was for sealioning. And I didn’t even know what that was before I heard about it from you, here on Lemmy.
Dude - again with the reading comprehension. <sigh>
Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassmentthat consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity
This community sees a difference between trolling and sealioning. Mod log says I was banned for sealioning. They are the ones who break it down to whatever they want. Their community, their rules. Check the mod log for yourself: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
Thank you!
Depends on the mod, sometimes it is very specific (“sealioning”, “civility”, “trolling”) and sometimes it’s more general (i.e. “rule 4”, “rule 3”). As you well know as all those examples above are from the explanations of your removed comments.
And it’s fairly rich for you to speak on behalf of the community. But your semantic games aside, your ban was for a form of trolling. That’s a factual and true statement not up for debate. You can either move forward from it or not, but you can’t pretend it didn’t happen.
My ban reason says “sealioning” and not “trolling.” If they wanted to ban me for “trolling” they could have said “trolling.”
If you wanna think both are exactly the same, then have at it. But they have different names. I stated the facts. I didn’t write the rules of this community, so feel free to take that up with the mods.
I haven’t pretended anything. The modlog is public. Feel free to look at it and see for yourself. Thank you!
All sealioning is trolling but not all trolling is sealioning. ;)
@[email protected] Very sorry to @ you, but it seems that UniversalMonk isn’t aware that he was banned for a form of trolling. Could you clarify for him, as he’s claiming that because his ban was for “sealioning” and not “trolling”, that’s somehow different. TIA
Now that you have a response from a mod on the fact you were indeed banned for trolling, we’re good, right?
“it wasn’t for trolling. It was for trolling”. Comprehension isn’t your strong suit, I see.
This community sees a difference between trolling and sealioning. Mod log says I was banned for sealioning. They are the ones that break it down to whatever they want. Their community, their rules. Check the mod log for yourself: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
Thank you!
Sealioning is a type of trolling, as you have already been told. I see another sealioning ban in your future, you’re literally doing it right now.
My ban reason said “sealioning.” Other people have been banned for “trolling.” I didn’t make up the mod rules. Thank you!
sealioning intensifies
I invite you to look at this user’s history.
Me too! I invite him to look at my history.
Yeah, people get pretty mad about it. I don’t take any of it personally. :)
If this poster didn’t take our feedback personally, it’d go to its special little corner of Lemmy and post all it wants there, because obviously the community here doesn’t like this poster, and finally, the moderation team is saying they’ve had enough of its shit.
It’s here because it really wants to ‘show us up’, posting incendiary topics, needling posters, pushing this meme that Trump would be better than Harris, and constantly egging on commentor after commentor.
If this poster didn’t take our feedback personally, it’d go to its special little corner of Lemmy and post all it wants there
I have several communities I created and mod. So I do post all I want there. Thank you!
I don’t know what meme you are referring to, as this is a Reuters article. And I posted it because I found it interesting. That’s it.
If you’re that concerned with what they report on and write, then reach out to Reuters and make your thoughts known. You are in charge of your own voice, friend! Thank you!
What did you find interesting about the article? I found it very interesting how Jill Stein only had 100 supporters at her last rally. She’s really making moves!
Well since she only had 100 supporters then you have nothing to be worried or angry about! So all good!
Oh, so you didn’t find anything in the article interesting?
I don’t have to explain anything to you. Thank you!
