• potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish
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    23 days ago

    Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.

    He made the art shown below. It’s not even good lmao, why the fuck would you declare something like that if you make the shittiest looking AI art. What a fucking clown.

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      23 days ago

      He didn’t make shit.

      A computer made it. He provided some guidance.

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        23 days ago

        Well in a way all Art is being done indirectly by some sort of instrument. Only the degree of sophistication or degree of separation of this instrument is different. A pencil drawing is in principle also done by the pencil, but I provided a lot of guidance through my hand. A pencil - almost no sophistication - is on one side of the spectrum and Midjourney/Stable Diffusion etc is on the other side of the spectrum.

        I don’t want to judge AI “art” in general - there’s so many awful traditional artworks that AI art doesn’t really stand out.

        What rubs me the wrong way is that it is a tool that no human can understand reasonably well. Everybody can understand a pencil. It’s possible to understand a computer renderer that renders digital art. But no one can understand the totality of an LLM which was trained on terabytes of images. It’s a lot of trial and error, because what the tool does generate random images even with precise directions. It’s throwing dice until one likes the result.

        The one thing I give this “artist” credit for: he was very early (maye even the first?) that entered AI art into a contest and fooled the jury. Being the first is often enough historically to make “great art”. Where art is more measured n the impact it has on a societal discussion. So I give him that.

        But a court already decided you can’t copyright AI art, because it’s trained on other art without permission. So he can get fucked.

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          22 days ago

          The pencil does not make the art.

          There’s a fundamental difference between AI image generation and an artist creating something that is both inherent and obvious.

          If you can’t see that then I’m not sure there’s much help for you.

          More than that, art being created by an artist has a style and a feeling behind it. There’s a nostalgia present in every painting. An artist saw something, and recreated it in a way that spoke to them.

          An algorithm can recreate images that look similar but with no understanding. It’s just an image and lacks all the things that makes art what it is. By removing humanity from art you literally remove the reason for it to exist.

          Flatly, it isn’t art. It’s slightly better than random. But as it happens, humans are better at that too.

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        23 days ago

        That doesn’t bother me as much as when you actually zoom in on the people

        Normally you paint somebody, you do so in a recognizable pose standing or caught in a frame stance that implies their motion.

        Here you have someone presumably looking at the orb, But they look more like a weeble wobble. Is that their tiny little arm holding there ear? They’re not balanced, I’m not even sure the head is connected to the neck there should be meat back there right? The raw proportions are just wrong.

        The overall feeling the piece conveys is pretty impressive but the actual details are bullshit.