• TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
    722·
    2 months ago

    You wouldn’t commodify an animal to the extent that you clone and breed it exclusively for rich losers to “hunt” them in enclosed outdoor spaces using helicopters and four wheelers.

    The summary in the screenshot is wild.

    • Jrockwar@feddit.uk
      23·
      2 months ago

      I agree with you with the fact that it’s wild, very distopian sci-fi.

      However, even it this very much an ethical no-no, I’m not sure which bit is the technically illegal part.

      If he were selling normal sheep, that would be perfectly legal. Nobody would bat an eyelid, despite being similar treatment to animals.

      Is it the cloning that is illegal? If he were to clone a species on the brink of extinction to re-populate an area, would that be ethical but illegal?

      Is the problem that he’s cloning without authorisation? Who decides whether we can bring new animals to life via cloning? Is there a Ministry of Clones that needs to authorise people to clone stuff?

      • EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world
        7·
        2 months ago

        If they’re game animals, they’re not supposed to be held like livestock. Captive in a game fence is fine usually, but not like in pens.

    • Spacehooks@reddthat.comEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      Jurassic park but just for hunting. Everything is free range and they “can’t use electronics” as the animals sense it and run away.

  • Zip2@feddit.uk
    15·
    2 months ago

    “Breeding it” and “breeding from it” sound very different to my mind.

  • Johanno@feddit.org
    9·
    2 months ago

    Ok I don’t know about the legal things, but what is morally wrong with doing that?

    • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      62·
      2 months ago

      You mean other than the abuse of animals for human pleasure?

      I don’t think cloning as a process is morally wrong but I don’t know all that much about it. I’m more concerned with the reasons we clone animals than with the process of cloning

      • Johanno@feddit.org
        3·
        2 months ago

        If you think about, that the most “successful” animals are the ones we eat, nothing we do with animals is in their interest. We only have them because they are useful in one way or the other.

        Of course you can also be against mass animal food production but most people don’t care, only that the chicken nuggets are cheap.

    • wieson@feddit.org
      1·
      2 months ago

      It could escape and mix with local wildlife and make the genetics all weird and complicated.

    • meyotch@slrpnk.net
      2·
      2 months ago

      Cloning, once you have done it once, is a dead simple process, relatively. Figuring it out the first time was hard, but since Dolly (the first cloned sheep, born at University of Idaho) there have been high levels of publication on sheep cloning specifically.

      Anymore, anyone who can parse reasonably complex instructions and has access to the kind of facilities any large animal vet might have could do this. It takes more money than I personally command but an even slightly well off person could afford it.

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
    6·
    2 months ago

    This is probably telling on myself, but I’m not sure how to read “breeding” here.

    I’m assuming (hoping) that they mean the literal dictionary definition of breeding it with other sheep, to produce a herd of genetic mutant giant sheep.

    I’m afraid they’re using slang and this dude cloned his fav sheep and fucked it.