Sad b/c teachers really don’t get rewarded monetarily enough, and OOP is acting like that’s some kinda lucrative career that would provide enough even for that.
Wouldn’t it have been nice to get Bernie’s medicare for all, with vision and dental coverage, so people fresh out of college with their likely first real job don’t need to ask their shitty ass parents for help?
It would be nice if boomers and older Gen Xers would stop cashing out and then blaming millennials and zennials for the inflation being out of control and the economy not being the monolith it was in the 1980’s. You know, the 80’s during which that little tech boom thing happened right around the time a famous actor got elected president and immediately started de-regulating everything under the sun so that huge corporations could start squeezing employees and consumers like the chattel they are, thereby inflating the value of goods, services, and land.
Dude this is like every post on the estranged parents sub on reddit… they really are oblivious to the fact that their kids have good reasons to hate them
Why does she say no real kids? Did she adopt or something and the mom is crazy?
My fifth grade teacher never had any kids, and considered us as her children. Maybe something like that is what she is referring to?
Probably has a pet or two and doesn’t want any “real” kids so they don’t end up acting like their parents…
She has robokids
Someone tell them “i think i raised an entitled shit” isn’t the pwn they think it is
“no real kids”
“no real bills”
🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
the fact that he added “real” to both means she has them but he somehow doesn’t consider them real, whatever the fuck that means. but this sounds like a total piece of shit and i feel sorry for the 24 year old.
nothing like ruining the economy and the future for the next generation and then refusing to help.
I think everyone is misunderstanding the “kids” part.
The daughter is a teacher, meaning she has “kids” (i.e. in her classroom), but not “real kids”, as in, kids of her own. A strange way of saying it, but I’m sure that’s what she meant.
The no real bills part… that could mean anything. If she’s living with her folks and doesn’t have to pay rent, utilities, etc., then I can understand how a request like that could be taken poorly by the mother.
Still, posting it on social media is Karen-like behaviour.
“Can you describe the nature of the unrealness of these bills, as its own thing and not as the absence of something else?”
Just thought the dissection of that particular “weasel word” might help someone out there at some point.
“Brandy made in Germany isn’t “real” cognac. The nature of the unrealness is that it was made in Germany and not the cognac region of France.”
You may disagree but my point here is, right or wrong, you can always describe the nature of the unrealness, unless its being used as a cheap, underhanded rhetorical device.
I’m guessing the kids comment was about pets. ‘No real bills’ I’m guessing she still lives at home and pays some token amount towards rent/utilities.
We can speculate all we like, but I could see this going either way, and I’d be frustrated if my 24 year old couldn’t support themselves too.
I mean she’s a teacher. A very hard job with lots of unpaid work that often offers downright sad wages.
Being unable to support oneself despite a full-time job is a more and more common thing in our world.
My cousin is a coparent in a polycule of 3, but she is not the biological parent of their children, she is the default parent though, as she is a SAHM and the other parents work. They’ve been together for 23 years.
Half my family acts like she doesn’t have any children, and that she’s some sad single live in nanny. They will ask her how her “room mates and their kids” are going, even if the “room mate” is standing next to her with his hand on her arse and has just finished telling a story about how in love they are.
My dad is also thinks I have “no real bills” because I don’t have a mortgage. He says rent isn’t a real bill because it’s not like the bank will take my house if I don’t pay. History opinion on evictions is “that not the same, because you can get a new place to rent that night, you can’t buy a new house in a day”
My rent is 6x more than his mortgage and I don’t know anyone who could get approved for a rental the same day they get evicted for not paying rent, but sure dad, I’m rolling in expendable income over here.
Some families are weird about denying how their relatives live.
But it could also be that she calls her cat “her baby” and lives at home with only personal bills.
I’d expect ‘no real bills’ to include rent for their own apartment (because the parent doesn’t get how much it costs nowadays), but no car bills for example.
i feel like if he’s frustrated about his kid and she only has pets he’d just say no kids. but people are weird with animals so who knows.
I only pay made-up fake bills, no real ones
To be fair you can get a pair of glasses on Zenni for like 20 bucks.
With prescription lenses?
Best part is if you know your script you can tweak it if your vision changes.
Yep! You just get a prescription from the eye doctor and enter the values on the site. 20 bucks later and boom you have some very reliable and inexpensive glasses. I’ve been using these guys for years and had basically zero issues.
Yep, also need your pupillary distance. i havent gotten an exam in so long i cant remember if thats included in the prescript. Luckily my eyesight hasnt gotten worse (yet).
Wearing my 26 dollar photochromic zennis for this comment. Been using zenni glasses for the better part of a decade.
It’s not usually but you can print out the little gauge thing or use their in browser tool if you have a Webcam and don’t mind your face being scanned by a discount glasses company in the decade of machine learning we’re about to go through
I got a pair of prescription glasses and sun glasses from Payne glasses for $80. I stopped wearing contacts a few years ago, and I work outside. I really missed having sun glasses.
Yep. I used them after I got new lenses. My eye doc gave me all the numbers I needed to enter.
From what I remember, $20 gets you a premium pair! I was getting glasses from Zenni and others for <$10.
If the daughter is looking at Lasik, it’s not out of necessity.
Am I the only one who lives with their parent and helps paying bills? I am asking, because some people seem to be surprised that my father forces me to pay for the living in his house, but the truth is I don’t mind that, and I’d rather not be a freeloader.
If your parents want you to pay rent, while at the same time complaining that you still live with them(which is often the situation), they can charitably be called dumbfucks.
I really subscribe to the idea of the kid helping on bills + a little extra and the parent saving as much as they financially can of that into an account and giving it to their kid as a moving away gift.
But yes, I think you are more talking about having the kid pay market price to live at home which is fucked.
I understand the need to privacy as people get older, but if my kids want to stay with me for a long period of their life, I will be pleased to have them with me as long as they like.
I mean, if you’re an adult with an income and living with anyone else (parents, roommate, etc.), you really should be helping with the upkeep of the place and bills. As well as paying for your own food, phone bill, etc.
“Forcing you to pay” sounds harsh without context. You’d have to pay rent to live anywhere else, right? Perhaps, “expected to pay” seems more logical… assuming you’re an adult with an income.
Setting an appropriate amount of contribution is between you and your dad. There is no wrong way except if a child truly needs a roof to sleep under and they aren’t a complete fuck up.
Even complete fuck ups need a roof
But at some point, it doesn’t necessarily mean your roof. Especially if the fuck ups damage property or other persons.
It’s situational, but you’re not the only one.
I lived with my dad for many years because he slowly lost the ability to take care of himself. My brother and I were there to handle whatever he needed and since I was working full time, I’d cover bills when it was required, either because he forgot or because he was struggling.
We eventually made the decision to have him moved to a care facility where he could get the care he needed, and far better care than we could hope to provide. He’s passed on now, but it happens. That was a crazy time in my life. Now I live independently.
For the record, I’m over 40 now, and I’m the youngest of his children. He died a few years back at this point.
I think It is fair that the members of a family, that are a community living together or not, all share in the burdens of life so it is easier for everyone. But if the parents are like forcing you to pay rent, then I would just live somewhere else.
Put in another way. It is fine if you have an adult children to say “hey, help out anyway you can so it is easier to everyone” and if they cannot figure out how to do that or they are like stuck and not progressing in life then instead of an ultimatum of “pay rent” better is a “I think you need the experience of living on your own”. Again I am all for money staying in the family and much prefer that or even better they saving money to buy a place than paying rent to some shitty landlord. But anyway.
To be fair… On the one hand, publicly complaining about the upbringing of your own daughter is just bad, but on the other…
When you’re 24 years old with your own (presumedly good) income and you want a non critical operation done, shouldn’t you try and finance that yourself?
Yeah there are a lot of possible nuances here.
LASIK can be optional, but there are a lot of situations where it can make a huge difference depending on her eyesight issues.
Teacher salary is NOT good in most places. And at 24 she’s entry level. Could be making less than enough to really live on, depending on CoL in her area.
Add in that as a teacher she likely has student loans to pay on… At least until she can get through the system and get on the public service repayment option. I think they were trying to improve it but last time I tried to get on it the system was less than ideal to work with
Shouldn’t goverment finance healthcare?
Wait, wrong country.
Finace yourself? In this economy?!
Shouldn’t goverment finance healthcare?
Are there any countries where LASIK is covered?
Came here to say this.
Remember when our parents told us social media is bad? Here it is, they are exactly why.
24 y/o with a teaching job.
No real income is what she has. Probably on top of a shitton student debt.
Don’t forget how much money she spends on classroom supplies for her “not real kids”!
Apparently she doesn’t have a good parent either.
“no real bills” I’d believe…if the parent said she lived at home (no rent, and food provided), was on parents’ insurance (health, auto, etc.), had no student debt, and was walking distance to work.
But given that her parent didn’t, I’d guess that isn’t the case. Turns out rent, food, transportation, and like you said, student debt, are all…what’s the word…real bills?
To a lot of people “serious bills” means credit card debt for shit they didn’t need.
She’s also probably paying for school supplies.
'Murica!
By the description it sounds like she lives at home? Teachers start most places at $40k+ a year. If she doesn’t have any bills and she’s 24 and no longer wants to wear glasses or contacts, yeah. That’s on her.
*Edit: Some of you disagree with my remarks about most teachers starting at over $40k. So in a below comment I provided facts and sources. The “teachers start most places at $40k+” is spot on.
My starting teacher salary in 2016 was $33K before taxes
And that was a long time and a lot of inflation ago.
And a lot of inflation means that, unless wages kept with it (they didn’t), this situation is exponentially worse.
Where are teachers starting at $40,000? That was 10 year salary in most of the US not even 5 years ago. My brother, his wife, and one of my sisters all started at ≈$24,000 a year, and they still had to supply their classrooms with basic supplies. They all got into teaching at completely different points over the last 19 years. One in '05, one in '12, and the last in '16 and they all started at ≈$24,000 a year. This was in Indiana, Georgia, and Virginia.
Straight from the National Education Association website.. This is a .org pro teacher and pro education website that is actively trying to increase teacher pay.
The National average for NEW teachers is $44,530. 28 percent of districts that staff a total of 300,000 teachers start at below $40,000. However, 23 percent of districts start at over $50,000, and those districts staff a total of 1,300,000 teachers. So over four times more teachers start over $50k, compared to the under $40k crowd.
Furthermore, Montana and Missouri have the lowest average starting teacher salaries and they are still at $34,500 and $36,800. So even if you’re in the dead last worst off state in the country, you’re still average new teacher salary is about $35,000.
So your numbers you have are a far, far, cry from reality for all but the lowest paid teachers in the lowest paid areas and are like a decade back from today’s rates.
As a completely superficial note, my friend just got her first full time teaching job for grade school and is in the 2nd lowest paying state for new teachers in the country; Missouri. Her starting salary is $51,000.
So if you want to have any argument or discussion about my original statement for teacher salaries being incorrect, do as I have and back it up with facts and sources.
Thats because teachers have been fighting tooth and nail to get a proper salary and its still fucking awful.
Them and everyone else. Why unions are finally on the rise again. The idiots have stopped being brainwashed by the ultra wealthy telling them unions are bad.
Spoken like someone who doesn’t have student debt. Or understand it at all.
“No one has audacity like the people you raised” proceeds to post about it to potentially millions of people, you know like people without audacity do.
I wonder if this lady will ever realize the politicians she votes for (come on, we know which party) are why her daughter with one of the most importsnt jobs in the entire world can’t afford to see. Probably not.
If her eyesight can’t be corrected with glasses, I don’t Lasik is going to help.
The fuck does no real bills mean? Does eating, rent and gas/insurance not count as real bill?
Forget the bills, why does she clarify no real kids?
Pets, or the more grotesque option, step-children.
I assumed that they might be referring to either pets or kids in her class at school. Don’t teachers have to pay for stuff out of pocket a lot of times?
Don’t teachers have to pay for stuff out of pocket a lot of times?
Yep. But at least you can claim that on your taxes! Only up to $300 per year though.
(Spoiler alert: it’s always more than $300 a year)
Stranger still: “no real kid(s)”.
More importantly what does no real kids mean?
Step kids? Only daughters? Just pets?
Probably the kids she has in classroom.
Students, maybe?
You know what, i kinda agree. Eating, rent, transport, etc shouldnt be real bills. A teacher 100% should be able to pay for those easily.
I mean that is how it works in my country, not so much the US
I just assumed she lived at home a d mom and dad paid for her car, insurance and cell phone. If she’s lucky, they also paid for college.
