Description: A picture titled “Russian plants” in a 3 x 3 grid with one of the grid items being Jill Stein, the rest are flora.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    It sucks that common mugwort is still illegal here in Indiana. Thankfully, there’s a dispensary about 30 minutes away in Illinois.

  • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyz
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    5 hours ago

    No one person, thing, or organization I regularly interact with has tried as hard as lemmy.world to convince me she is some kinda fucked up spoiler effect politics demon.

    Maybe dems should actually try to make ranked choice voting happen for real, instead of lip service to the idea, if they want the people who prefer third parties to support them. And maybe dems should attempt to do anything at all to address the concerns of the third party voters, instead of just threatening them with trump some more. Just some ideas that might alleviate the problem more effectively than getting really mad at people on the internet.

    • anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml
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      It’s very weird having scrolled in my feed toward the world stuff. It almost seems artificial, like the redditors all collected here with all the hivemind weirdness and astroturfing.

      and yeah, Democrats would rather send their dark-money and ‘venture-capitalist’-funded PAC lawyers to purge 3rd parties from ballots (really democratic, Democrat party; I’m writing in PSL regardless if they can’t get back on and telling everyone I know to) than make themselves appealing at all to the people abandoning their moribund and redundant party ‘like rats from a sinking ship’.

      They would rather fight with the Republicans over the (shrinking) voter base of rich and upper ‘middle class’ petty bourgeois rightwingers, and alienate all of their leftwing base, and continue abandoning the 35-50% that straight up don’t vote for either of these duopoly-of-exploiters in this fascist-and-vampire show, than reorient toward positions of “not genocide” or “not nuclear-brinksmanship forever-war proxy-wars” or “not-constantly bipartisanly increasing and expanding the US military and neo-colonial racketeer system which is incidentally one of the leading contributors to climate change.”

      or “not continuing filling the world with CIA torture camps” or "not being just as or in some ways more right wing than trump on immigration somehow

      It’s telling that they refuse to do any of these things a large portion of the population wants; to the point where Muslim groups are advocating voting for 3rd parties who aren’t for drinking the blood of Palestinians (apparently a tall order for US politicians), and instead would rather put so much effort into demonizing and crushing 3rd parties who do advocate against these things.

      I don’t even know if they’re capable of not flying to the right and pandering to right wingers more and more due to their donor base. Their structure is inherently based on funding and campaigning and working for the worst billionaire imperialists and arms-dealer death-merchants in the world and AIPAC and tech monopolies etc. If we all pushed up the PSL to hold their working class margins hostage that they (unlike republicans) actually rely on and take for granted, they might break in half trying to reorient. Maybe they’d float a reformist party to prevent everyone going socialist against the open-fanged republicans who nobody ever had any illusions about and half the dems who are basically republicans will join them, and the other half will flee to the new reformist party (probably alienating their “left wing” into more radical politics because that party would become democrat-ified)

      People just want to be lied to about the Democrats that they’re different and ‘acting resistance’ at all to the republicans, when they’re really not that different — and where they (barely) are different, they just capitulate and help the Republicans do whatever they were going to do, in the name of “bipartisanship” and “reaching across the aisle”. Like when Obama had both houses of congress and refused to enshrine women’s bodily autonomy and LGBTQ civil rights into law. And then gave away a free Supreme Court seat in capitulation. Then Biden denounces the idea of pushing to expand and pack the court because it’ll “politicize the court” as if that ship isn’t gone past the horizon forever, while doing nothing as women’s and LGBTQ rights are torn down throughout the country, even with a Democrat president. It’s almost like they don’t actually care, or even like when women’s rights and LGBTQ rights are under attack because they can drum up fear about the republicans and look ‘better’ by comparison after creating the problem in the first place, and keep the vampire-and-fascist (dog-and-pony) show going, and get all the gullible liberal votes that “they’ll vote for us anyway — we’re not the republicans” Which circles back to why they’re so scared of and pushing demonization and repression of 3rd parties I guess. That’s a pretty sweet cruise-control-deal they have hoodwinking the populace in a sort of face/heel drama for their ‘audience’

  • hark@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    What’s with the focus on Jill Stein? Third parties aren’t relevant and the number of people who vote for them is far overshadowed by the number of people who don’t vote at all. There are better uses of time than this lame two minutes hate session.

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      7 hours ago

      Democrats don’t have a comprehensive worldview that can explain why they are so widely disliked and why so many people are apathetic/actively hostile towards America. Russiagate fills the gap in their understanding of the world by imagining that Vladimir Putin is a Great Man of History and that his perfidious scheming is responsible for all of the ills of America’s democratic system.

    • RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      Russian shills + USA republicans began pushing propaganda for her in a big way after they couldn’t find a decent angle to effectively attack Harris like they did with Biden. Leave that propaganda unchecked and she will divert more than a few votes because propaganda works, so fortunately there is a lot of pushback in the other way.

    • SeattleRain@lemmy.world
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      52 minutes ago

      Since Democrats are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college and have already lost two elections they had the majority of votes in.

      Harris, while popular, is in a dead heat in several swing states with Trump and it’s very likely she’ll lose. Liberals think that having third party candidates takes away votes from Harris even through all evidence points to the contrary.

      • stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net
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        Since Democrats Republicans are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college and have already ~~lost~won two elections they had the majorityminority of votes in.

        FTFY.

      • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works
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        That’s an interesting question. I can’t even imagine it was hunger as even kgs of green leaves won’t satiate a family’s hunger. Maybe it was an attempt at checking if the plant could cure when cooked? Maybe it was believed that all stinging and poisonous plants had magical properties? Who knows.

    • Thelsim@sh.itjust.works
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      6 hours ago

      I hate stinging nettles so much… They’re always the first to pop up in spring and ruin an otherwise nice walk in the forest.

  • pseudo@jlai.lu
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    16 hours ago

    As a plant watch, or whatever this is called, I can assure you that this chart will not help you recognised local flora.

  • egrets@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Can’t speak for many of the rest, but jade plants are from southern Africa. I demand geophylogenetically accurate memes.

  • pgp@sh.itjust.works
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    20 hours ago

    You guys do realize that the whole world laughs at your inability to conceive proper left politics, right?

    • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 hours ago

      Image thinking Russia is left-wing.

      Imagine thinking that leftism is a coherent ideology, instead of an arbitrary list of disparate and often-contradicting positions.

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        If you think tankies are left wing, that explains why you don’t understand leftism.

        But ultimately left/right directions are terrible descriptors of political ideologies. It’s intentionally vague to mislead and control people.

    • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      17 hours ago

      Ohhh he’s proper left politics Jill stein poasting! He’s gonna dissennnnnnnttttttt

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      That’s ok we got all the money. Your country does what we tell it to, I’m betting.

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      19 hours ago

      That’s because we have a Russian plant at the helm of the only, let’s be honest, sort-of-not-really viable third party in this country. We need and overhaul of our voting system to get out of this mess, like with RCV

    • JaymesRS@literature.cafeOP
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      20 hours ago

      A) Jill Stein ≠ left politics B) “proper left politics” involves doing more than just running as a presidential candidate every 4 years funded by the political party in farthest opposition to your political agenda.

        • Glytch@lemmy.world
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          The one guy running for a seat on the Arizona Corporation commission is the only one I saw running in the short of race where the Greens have a chance to affect change. Running for the federal House or Senate isn’t where they should be focusing their efforts until they build a base of support.

        • JaymesRS@literature.cafeOP
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          19 hours ago

          Posting a link to a handful of names on sporadic ballots across the US is a dumb person’s idea of what “serious electoral effort” is.

          Son, I am disappoint.

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            4 hours ago

            Yes they are a much smaller political party, that doesnt mean theyre not putting in serious effort

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              If you think a political party (or “serious electoral/political effort”) is just “names on a few ballots,” there is no amount of crayons that someone can use to draw you a picture and get you up to speed.

              Pick a candidate or GoTV organization to volunteer with for a while and come back after that experience.

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                Did do that, helped several greens get elected. The green party has more grassroots support than any dem pres candidate in history. You have billionaires, racist soccer moms, aipac, and no real humans on your side.

                • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  8 hours ago

                  The green party has more grassroots support than any dem pres candidate in history.

                  Do you have a source or was this bullshit pulled from your own ass?

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            18 hours ago

            I remember that green party candidate in AZ a few years back had more funding from Republicans lmao.

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      They will 100% compromise on war crimes. It’ll just be for Ukraine rather than Israel.

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      They’re terrified, because the election is close and a reliable liberal voting block - Arab Americans - is increasingly disenchanted with a liberal leadership that’s pandering to fascists.

      If too many Deerborn, Michigan residents defect from the Harris ticket, liberals are going to be foisted with another four years of Trump. And then the Arab-Americans will be to blame, of course. Not the AIPAC lobbyists or the MIC merchants of death or the O&G land-thieves or the domestic white nationalists. Its those stupid Arabs and their pro-Russian Jill Stein agenda.