Personally, I don’t* but I was curious what others think.

*some sandwiches excluded like a Cubano or chicken parm; those do require cooking.

  • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The question is inadequatly phrased. You must describe what kind of sandwich we are speaking of. Unless op is speaking about cold sandwiches exclusively, many sandwiches require cooking.

    Croque Monsieur

    Grilled Cheese

    Cubano

    Monte Cristo

    Panini

    These are just a few that I came up with off the top of my head. I’m sure there are many more.

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    21 小时前

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    Nope. In English, if it doesn’t involve the application of heat, you ain’t cooking, you’re preparing, making, or other terminology.

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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        20 小时前

        Pretty much, yeah. Same as grilling a burger and putting it on bread is cooking despite the bread being pre-made.

        Afaik, cooking isn’t limited to applying heat to raw foods.

        Might be worth saying that I don’t remember which dictionary the definition came from, and that dictionaries only record language, they don’t prevent changes over time. Which means that usage could have changed enough since the last time I looked at any, and now have a different usage added

  • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
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    22 小时前

    Cooking (in the English I was taught) involves the application of heat - frying, baking, roasting, boiling etc are the names for specific ways to do this. A sandwich would be made or prepared.

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        Just for the heck of it, if you heat protein enough to denature it but have no Maillard reaction (let’s say you’ve just made a hard boiled egg), would that not be considered cooking by that definition?

        My understanding is that denaturing is a physical structure change, not a chemical one (and according to Wikipedia can be reversible in some cases), not a biochemist or food scientist though so totally accepting that my understanding is incorrect/incomplete.

  • StopJoiningWars@discuss.online
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    Does it take unreasonably long compared to the time to consume the food?

    Yes.

    Does it use ingredients?

    Yes.

    Is it worth the effort?

    No.

    Sounds like cooking to me.

        • MolochAlter@lemmy.world
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          They did not say “do I enjoy it?” they said “Is it worth the effort?” and if having food made exactly to your taste is not worth the effort you either have no standards and would be fine with microwave slop and fast food, or you lack the skill to make something that satisfies you.

          Either way, skill issue.

          The one exception would be if you’re disabled or something, and I don’t mean “I have adhd” disabled, I mean “I physically can’t stand at the stove for 20-30 minites” disabled.

  • untorquer@lemmy.world
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    The specific language you speak has significant impact here. For some, "to make food* is used to refer to cooking. Where as in English it’s not so clear. I prefer the use in terms of survival. IMO, if you can make any food enough to survive you can cook, because in English there is not a better colloquial verb. Though i wouldn’t call you ‘a cook’ or ‘a chef’ if you can’t apply heat to produce edible food from raw.

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      23 小时前

      This might be different depending on the speaker, but at least for me Portuguese and Italian are even stricter on interpreting cozinhar/cozer and cucinare/cuocere as involving heat. Like, if I were to say for example ⟨*cozinhei um sanduíche⟩ (literally “I *cooked a sandwich”), I’m almost sure that people would interpret it as “I picked an already prepared sandwich and used it as ingredient for something else”

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        I mean that’s true of the english term as well. But if someone says they can’t cook i default to thinking they order out every meal or use a microwave fot cup of ramen. Making sandwiches, salads, and other cold foods is still a skill but there’s no word such as cold-cutlerist and i refuse andwich artist.

  • KingJalopy @lemm.ee
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    The word cooking, to me, means using heat with a stove. Baking is for the oven. Grilling, is outside on a grill. But a sandwich is only ever “made” in my house. “Will you make me a sandwich?”, “I’m making a sandwich”

    Good question though. Never thought about it.

    • nous@programming.dev
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      24 小时前

      I see cooking as a more general term. Both baking and grilling are forms of cooking. You can also roast and grill things in the oven. Cooking on a stove also has different specific terms, boiling, simmering, frying etc.

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          23 小时前

          I mean more general than heat with a stove. Not as is every form of meal preparation.

          But yes. I would cook a salad - stir frys are basically just cooked salads with some rice or noodles. I would not consider every salad to be cooked though.

    • AmidFuror@fedia.io
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      1 天前

      Grills can be inside. You just need the parallel bars with heat underneath to call it grilling.

    • Pilferjinx@lemmy.world
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      1 天前

      Depends on your start point. You can bake your own bread, cook/combine your own condiments, and roast/cure your own meats.

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        19 小时前

        You can grow your wheat, and raise pigs, but to really make it from scratch, first you need to create the universe.

  • Boozilla@lemmy.world
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    1 天前

    IMO, assembling a sandwich from ready-to-eat ingredients without using a stove, oven, microwave, etc. is meal prep, not cooking. If you roast, saute, toast, smoke, or even zap any part of it, now you’re cookin’. (Though zapping might just be reheating something that was cooked previously. Ugh, this is more complicated than it should be. English can be frustrating.)

  • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    “Cooking” to me, requires the combination of ingredients AND heating them to create a new thing. Making a grilled cheese is basic, but cooking. Slapping meat, cheese and veg on bread is not cooking.

  • TheBananaKing@lemmy.world
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    Entirely context dependent.

    Who’s cooking tonight? Me, and if it’s sandwiches, salad, etc - still counts.

    No cooking in the room. Combining sliced bread with sliced cheese out of the bag - doesn’t count.