“Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia. After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016 she’s at it again,” DNC spokesman Matt Corridoni said in a statement to The Bulwark. “Jill Stein won’t become president, but her spoiler candidacy—that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in—can help decide who wins. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.”

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    LOL it took a whole hour

    you kids are slacking

    and no. voting for harris does NOT make me “pro-genocide,” no matter how much you wish it did.

    have fun watching jill stein get a single digit percentage of the vote. if that. but don’t feel like you accomplished something by throwing your vote away, because you didn’t

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      and no. voting for harris does NOT make me “pro-genocide,” no matter how much you wish it did.

      Of course not. You being pro-genocide means that you have two candidates to choose from.

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        Why do you love Trump so much you’re trying so hard to get him into power?

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        LOL ok, you’re cool with throwing your vote away

        that doesn’t mean anyone else is obliged to waste time “rationalizing” NOT throwing their vote away to you

        do what you want. just know that your third party vote did NOTHING for palestine. and NOTHING for anyone else either.

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          Telling someone they are throwing away their vote because they won’t support your team is right wing authoritarian voter suppression.

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            “Teams” don’t enter into it.

            One candidate poses an existential threat to our country and way of life.

            One other candidate can defeat them.

            Taking a vote away from the 2nd candiadate has the same net effect as voting for the first one.

            You either help beat Trump or you help elect him. A 3rd party will not win, so voting 3rd party doesn’t help beat Trump.

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          I wish it meant we did nothing for palestine. Instead of it meaning bombs and funding continues to pour into the arms of the country thats killing them.

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              Nah im voting for a candidate that has not voted to arm and fund an ongoing genocide.

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                And helping Trump who wants to accelerate that same genocide while starting another one here at home.

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                  Genocide is an absolute non starter. If one party supports it and one supports it harder, you need to burn down the whole political field and start over.

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                LOL aka throwing your fucking vote away

                i’m not telling anyone how to vote. i’m just saying that a vote for third party is a vote that goes straight in the fucking trash

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            The problem is that “support genocide” is being used overly broadly.

            The stated policy of the Biden/Harris administration is that Israel has a right to defend itself.

            Surprise! They do. Every sovereign nation has that right.

            As a result of that stated policy, Biden and Harris both support providing weapons and funding for the continual defense of Israel.

            https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/g-s1-19232/kamala-harris-israel-gaza-dnc

            So follow me here:

            1. Israel has a right to defend itself.
            2. The US will support that defense.

            Where it breaks down is Bibi and Likud taking that defensive support and directing it into the Genocide.

            That’s on THEM. The United States is making a good faith effort to provide support for the defense of Israel. Israel is intentionally misapplying that support.

            Trump’s stated policy is that Israel needs to kill everyone quicker.

            https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

            “They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big. But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

            Only one of these two policies is pro-genocide, Trumps.

            Biden/Harris is pro-defense which is illegitimately being used for genocide, not at all the same as being pro-genocide.