Good. One less State allowing her betrayal of America.
“We are stuck with Biden[/Harris] now, in a two-party duopoly, if one should be defeated ferociously, the logic is that the other one prevails.” (Ralph Nader, 2023)
Willy Wimmer was a Right-wing German politician who in his retirement has effectively become a far-right conspiracy theorist that regularly posts to the Epoch Times.
For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.
Anyone who votes for her is a fucking moron who is wilfully ignoring the reality of how FPTP voting works.
But they should still have that right. It’s undemocratic to say otherwise. Saying they shouldn’t be allowed to run just because you don’t like the effect that voting for them might have is the mark of autocracy.
Yes for you all we have to do is convince 45% of voters to do something they would literally never do to succeed. And then if we don’t succeed, burning the country the rest of the way to ground at the expense of every vulnerable person is not only not cruel, it’s a fine choice. And that’s the only way to be a logical true leftist. Limiting suffering is clearly a horrible choice. I guess once we realize that suffering and cruelty is the whole point, your positions do make a lot of sense.
It’s worse than that. And understanding this is key to understanding why voting third party will never work in the USA without reforming our electoral system.
Suppose tomorrow, a genie grants one of these posters’ wishes and suddenly it’s Stein with 48.0% of the vote in critical swing states, and Harris and other candidates on the Left sit on 3% of the vote, while Trump has 51% of the vote. Suddenly, it’s Harris who’s the spoiler and we end up with Trump because 10k voters thought Jill was too cosy-cosy with Russia.
I have specific issues with Stein that would definitely have me far less sure of my vote, but I’d still take her over Project 2025 and DJT. I’d still be calling as hard against voting third party as I am in this universe where it’s the Greenie and not the Democrat that would spoil the election.
Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!
This idiotic “point” will always fall flat. Your third party spoilers will get less than 3% combined nationwide. And your vote will be worthless unless you’re trying to help Trump.
Good. One less State allowing her betrayal of America.
“We are stuck with Biden[/Harris] now, in a two-party duopoly, if one should be defeated ferociously, the logic is that the other one prevails.” (Ralph Nader, 2023)
Putin’s Shill Stein wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing ‘peace’ (subjugation) negotiations with russia.
2015 Stein breaking bread with Putin, his senior staff, and Mike Flynn (later Trump’s national security advisor
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For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.
No, not good.
Anyone who votes for her is a fucking moron who is wilfully ignoring the reality of how FPTP voting works.
But they should still have that right. It’s undemocratic to say otherwise. Saying they shouldn’t be allowed to run just because you don’t like the effect that voting for them might have is the mark of autocracy.
Couldn’t agree more. They used the form provided to them. Withholding ballot access based on a technicality smacks of disenfranchisement.
Apparently “democracy should be open” is a controversial take.
Or maybe my comment got downvoted for saying that those voting for her are morons?
Your vote for Harris takes away a vote from a 3rd party candidate and gives it to Trump
This is why we need better education. People who think they can just say words and they don’t even need to make any logical sense
That’s what the bullshit coming from Democrats sounds like from a leftist point of view
Yes for you all we have to do is convince 45% of voters to do something they would literally never do to succeed. And then if we don’t succeed, burning the country the rest of the way to ground at the expense of every vulnerable person is not only not cruel, it’s a fine choice. And that’s the only way to be a logical true leftist. Limiting suffering is clearly a horrible choice. I guess once we realize that suffering and cruelty is the whole point, your positions do make a lot of sense.
It’s worse than that. And understanding this is key to understanding why voting third party will never work in the USA without reforming our electoral system.
Suppose tomorrow, a genie grants one of these posters’ wishes and suddenly it’s Stein with 48.0% of the vote in critical swing states, and Harris and other candidates on the Left sit on 3% of the vote, while Trump has 51% of the vote. Suddenly, it’s Harris who’s the spoiler and we end up with Trump because 10k voters thought Jill was too cosy-cosy with Russia.
I have specific issues with Stein that would definitely have me far less sure of my vote, but I’d still take her over Project 2025 and DJT. I’d still be calling as hard against voting third party as I am in this universe where it’s the Greenie and not the Democrat that would spoil the election.
Your vote for any candidate that isn’t yourself takes away a vote from the only candidate whose opinions match yours perfectly.
Capitalists represent nothing I want in government.
Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!
This idiotic “point” will always fall flat. Your third party spoilers will get less than 3% combined nationwide. And your vote will be worthless unless you’re trying to help Trump.
She doesn’t seem that far off from Trump based on both wanting daddy Putin’s policies anyways.
Meh, I’m not voting for her anyway.
Right, we know you’re voting for trump
Russian shills can’t vote, at least not legally.